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26 Apr 2009 19:33 #285514 by TeK9iNe
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Throwing my motor back together this week...

Just wondering, I've heard of people using a layer of liquid gasket maker between the oem dry gasket layers.

Is this recommended? Which gaskets? Would it help to prevent oil leaks?

I hope to have it together for quite some time :P

Cheers.

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81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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26 Apr 2009 19:36 #285516 by timebomb33
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one very short answer don't do it.put them in dry unless its a copper gasket. i hope i answered your question.

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26 Apr 2009 19:49 #285531 by TeK9iNe
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Alrighty then, thanks!

So I should assume that with a clean dry assembly, and proper torque, I shouldnt have to worry about leaks?

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26 Apr 2009 21:56 #285601 by timebomb33
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if there are no gouges and everything is straight and tourqued properly but pattern and proper amount in stages you should not have any leaks.

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
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27 Apr 2009 14:52 - 27 Apr 2009 14:58 #285768 by bountyhunter
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TeK9iNe wrote:

Throwing my motor back together this week...

Just wondering, I've heard of people using a layer of liquid gasket maker between the oem dry gasket layers.

Is this recommended? Which gaskets? Would it help to prevent oil leaks?

I hope to have it together for quite some time :P

Cheers.

B)

Theoretically, if the surfaces are perfect and flat and the gasket is perfect, it will seal. Of course, if you scratched something a bit scraping off the old gasket and have some fine scratches...... hence why I always use the sealer. Much easier than taking it apart again.

For gaskets you want to seal dead tight forever and never plan to remove again like the cylinder base gasket, yamaha 3-bond or similar is the best. That is what was on mine from the factory.

For most gaskets, I use a thin bead of the Ultra-Hi temp black gasket sealer. It seals strong but is easy to remove. The worst place for leaks is across the tops of the cam end plugs at the cover gasket joint.

Head gasket should be dry.

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28 Apr 2009 07:56 #285963 by TeK9iNe
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Thanks!

Cheers.

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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
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85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
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29 Apr 2009 17:03 #286350 by larrycavan
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bountyhunter wrote:

TeK9iNe wrote:

Throwing my motor back together this week...

Just wondering, I've heard of people using a layer of liquid gasket maker between the oem dry gasket layers.

Is this recommended? Which gaskets? Would it help to prevent oil leaks?

I hope to have it together for quite some time :P

Cheers.

B)

Theoretically, if the surfaces are perfect and flat and the gasket is perfect, it will seal. Of course, if you scratched something a bit scraping off the old gasket and have some fine scratches...... hence why I always use the sealer. Much easier than taking it apart again.

For gaskets you want to seal dead tight forever and never plan to remove again like the cylinder base gasket, yamaha 3-bond or similar is the best. That is what was on mine from the factory.

For most gaskets, I use a thin bead of the Ultra-Hi temp black gasket sealer. It seals strong but is easy to remove. The worst place for leaks is across the tops of the cam end plugs at the cover gasket joint.

Head gasket should be dry.


Remember 1215 from 3-Bond?

That stuff was great for gaskets. Especially on things like valve cover and clutch covers....You could pull the cover and the gasket wouldn't rip.

OEM J valve cover gaskets were a bastard. They'd always rip...stick to the head and the cover. Just added more time to doing a tune up. After getting that first miserable gasket cleaned up, we'd always put some 1215 on both sides of the new one and that ended that PITA situation on the next valve adjustment.. :)

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