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28 Feb 2009 14:26 #268711
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My 79 SR650 doesn't upshift from stand-still - 1st & neutral only. Is that by design?
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28 Feb 2009 14:27 #268712
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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28 Feb 2009 14:42 #268717
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Rathdrum Idaho
1971 Kawasaki g3ss
1972 Yamaha R5 350
1965 Suzuki Hillbilly
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Yes- you can't shift up at a stand still.
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28 Feb 2009 15:04 #268721
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Sorry folks but the answer is still no. I can shift my KZ650C1 down to 1st, up to 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th without even starting the engine. Always could since new. Ed
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28 Feb 2009 18:17 #268767
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321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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Ed, your transmission is broke since new :laugh: Actually both responses are correct. 1977 KZ650 did not have the neutral finder, 1978 up did. Well documented what the neutral finder is, it makes upshift from first to neutral at a standstill always go to neutral. The output shaft has to be spinning to access second gear on the 1978 up models. 1977 you can shift all the gears at standstill.
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28 Feb 2009 18:17 #268768
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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on 900-1000 rear wheel has to be spinning to get into 2nd gear,not sure about 650
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28 Feb 2009 20:45 - 28 Feb 2009 21:04 #268818
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RonKZ650 "1977 KZ650 did not have the neutral finder, 1978 up did."
Ron, Your post made me get off my butt and look in a manual for the 1978 KZ650. You're right, of course, beginning in 1978 the KZ650s have balls in the transmission that fall into grooves in the output shaft (ouch!) when it's not spinning and keep the trans from upshifting.
Geez, what other kind of complicated new fangled gadgets did they put on the new model KZ650s? Next thing you know, they'll be putting on fuel gages and removing the headlight on/off switches and kickstarters. Ed
Ron, Your post made me get off my butt and look in a manual for the 1978 KZ650. You're right, of course, beginning in 1978 the KZ650s have balls in the transmission that fall into grooves in the output shaft (ouch!) when it's not spinning and keep the trans from upshifting.
Geez, what other kind of complicated new fangled gadgets did they put on the new model KZ650s? Next thing you know, they'll be putting on fuel gages and removing the headlight on/off switches and kickstarters. Ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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01 Mar 2009 07:18 #268897
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Thanks for the info, guys. This helps.
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