Vance and Hines exhaust future

EricHa wrote:

... If you're going to lower your bike very much, you have to at least consider a sidewinder/pro pipe.

On the Z1 with the Yoshi pipes, lowering the front end by raising the fork tubes an inch higher in the clamps did not create much of a clearance issue, either ground or wheel/fender with hard front braking.

Good Luck!

Jeff, IF you have pipes made, keep in mind that MANY owners originally had 4 into 2 pipes. The only sources for 4 into 2 have turn out mufflers which I doubt most folks enjoy looking at. I sure don't. If you get pipes made, a 4 into 2 with megaphone mufflers would really be nice... similar to the OEM stuff on the later KZ1000s in chrome but I bet BLACK would also be a good seller. If you had pipes made up, I bet a 4 into 4 replica pipe would also sell if you could get the price within reason.

This place has some interesting possibilites -

www.klasmo-bikes.de/land.php?auswahl=mod...land1=USA&kunden_id=

I am particularly interested in the Cobra Duplex #710709Z, though I wonder how much shipping will be. They sell several systems that I think are not available in the US by other means, which would give them, imo, extra bling points for exclusivity.
By the way, whoever did ther English translation needs further study, so be warned - you will have to use some creative interp. of your own.

The 4-2 pipes would be a strong consideration.

There are some 4-2 pipes avaialble today, but they are either very expense (like the ZeCross system we sell), or too crappy (like MAC).

The key challenge is getting them made at a price point we all can live with. Most of the manufacturers require runs of 50 or more pipes at a time.

TexasKZ wrote:

This place has some interesting possibilites -

www.klasmo-bikes.de/land.php?auswahl=mod...land1=USA&kunden_id=

I am particularly interested in the Cobra Duplex #710709Z, though I wonder how much shipping will be. They sell several systems that I think are not available in the US by other means, which would give them, imo, extra bling points for exclusivity.
By the way, whoever did ther English translation needs further study, so be warned - you will have to use some creative interp. of your own.

The problem with importing pipes from overseas is you can run into issues with US Customs and DOT requirements. If you import a pipe for a bike later than 1977, the pipes MUST adhere to DOT/EPA standards. If US Customs determines a pipe does not conform, it may get sent back or destroyed. Because of this issue, we've avoided importing a couple of the pipes from Japan.

Jeff.Saunders wrote:

The problem with importing pipes from overseas is you can run into issues with US Customs and DOT requirements. If you import a pipe for a bike later than 1977, the pipes MUST adhere to DOT/EPA standards. If US Customs determines a pipe does not conform, it may get sent back or destroyed. Because of this issue, we've avoided importing a couple of the pipes from Japan.

So, in theory, if you import a pipe for a Z1B and it not so coincidently also fits 1977-80 KZ1000B models, the pipe might slip by US Customs?

just tell em they help motorcycles here get down to 11 miles to the gallon and the u.s will import em for us..in fact they will give us employee discount programsJeff.Saunders wrote:

TexasKZ wrote:

This place has some interesting possibilites -

www.klasmo-bikes.de/land.php?auswahl=mod...land1=USA&kunden_id=

I am particularly interested in the Cobra Duplex #710709Z, though I wonder how much shipping will be. They sell several systems that I think are not available in the US by other means, which would give them, imo, extra bling points for exclusivity.
By the way, whoever did ther English translation needs further study, so be warned - you will have to use some creative interp. of your own.

The problem with importing pipes from overseas is you can run into issues with US Customs and DOT requirements. If you import a pipe for a bike later than 1977, the pipes MUST adhere to DOT/EPA standards. If US Customs determines a pipe does not conform, it may get sent back or destroyed. Because of this issue, we've avoided importing a couple of the pipes from Japan.

Mcdroid wrote:

Jeff.Saunders wrote:

The problem with importing pipes from overseas is you can run into issues with US Customs and DOT requirements. If you import a pipe for a bike later than 1977, the pipes MUST adhere to DOT/EPA standards. If US Customs determines a pipe does not conform, it may get sent back or destroyed. Because of this issue, we've avoided importing a couple of the pipes from Japan.

So, in theory, if you import a pipe for a Z1B and it not so coincidently also fits 1977-80 KZ1000B models, the pipe might slip by US Customs?

If the pipe is imported as for a Z1, KZ900 or 1977 KZ1000, you'd be OK. Import it for a 1973-1980 Kawasaki 900/1000 and you won't be.

With any import, your shipper should be including a manifest with all this information on. With individuals importing today, US Customs doesn't force you file detailed import documentation unless you go over $2,000 value - although a number of shipping companies do require a detailed contents description regardless. However, the package may still be inspected and subjected to US Customs import laws.

Historically, packages through the Post Office have not required so much detail - however, many of the laws today around the Postal Services import/export processes will be changing to level the playing field for all shipping entities regardless of whether they are government based or privately owned.

Thanks Jeff,
Since I have a 1980 vintage bike, I guess I'll just forget that idea and start collecting some pvc or old clay drain pipes that will keep the EPA/DOT Nazis happy.
:S

TexasKZ wrote:

Thanks Jeff,
Since I have a 1980 vintage bike, I guess I'll just forget that idea and start collecting some pvc or old clay drain pipes that will keep the EPA/DOT Nazis happy.
:S

Unless something from an older bike fits.

I would not pick a new V&H out of a ditch .Junk
Vintage Yoshi is the only option