Engine turns over hard when hot, any ideas?

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18 Oct 2008 14:21 #242458 by harm
I usually don't start my bike when its warm because I have been pretty much just been riding it to work. Well today i took it on some errands and at the last stop when i tried starting it the engine was having a very hard time turning over. After a couple of tries it did start and ran fine. The battery was new this past spring so I think it is fine. Do i have a weak starter? Why only when the engine is hot?

Thanks for any help!
Tom

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18 Oct 2008 14:30 #242462 by FastKaw1
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Need more info. What you riding?
I would check all your wire connections, and timing.

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18 Oct 2008 18:14 #242483 by SLEEPER650
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sounds like you have too much advance in the timing. check your timing and make sure your advancer is working springs not broke or stuck.

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18 Oct 2008 18:23 #242484 by timebomb33
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check the levels in your battery over time wet cell batterys will lose fluid due to evaporation and older kawi charging systems have been known to to overcharge a bit any time you have an problem like this always verify the battery is up to proper voltage before looking for other problems.

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18 Oct 2008 18:47 - 18 Oct 2008 18:48 #242493 by Patton
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And if not already done, would also measure specific gravity (little floating balls test) and load test the battery.

Good Luck! :)

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18 Oct 2008 20:09 #242512 by steell
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If these were real short trips, and if you spent the entire time in stop and go city traffic, then it's possible the bike got hot enough to cause the pistons to drag on the cylinder walls.

I'd check everything else first though.

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19 Oct 2008 11:06 #242635 by H2RICK
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You MAY have a starter that's reaching the end of its life cycle. If everything else checks out okay (including the solenoid) and there's no corrosion on either end of the big wire from the solenoid to the starter itself then I'd pull the starter and disassemble it to check the brushes and the commutator. They WILL wear out eventually.....;)

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19 Oct 2008 18:09 - 19 Oct 2008 18:10 #242719 by harm
Thanks for the replies!

I took the battery out and checked the fluid level, they all look good. I put the battery on the charger for a little while and cleaned the connections real good. I will see how it goes this week.

When i get some more time i will check the timing and advancer.

Tom

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19 Oct 2008 18:40 #242726 by Patton
Replied by Patton on topic Engine turns over hard when hot, any ideas?
harm wrote:

... cleaned the connections real good....


This would include the connection where the negative battery cable attaches to the engine or frame.

Good Luck! :)

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