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31 Aug 2008 14:57 #234825 by grinch77
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well nothing:( I just finished swapping a '82 KZ750 motor in to a '78 KZ650 frame swapped over the points set up so the wiring would be the same.I have spark,fuel,and compression so I guess my problem is in my timing.I'll get the occasional back fire through the exhaust pipe but that's it.Any one have a link or some advice on what else to try?

1978 KZ650\'82 KZ750 motor
1991 SE-R
Coweta,OK

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31 Aug 2008 15:28 - 31 Aug 2008 15:30 #234832 by bill_wilcox100
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Sounds like your ignition is 180 degrees out of sync.

Typical causes are reversed left and right coil wires. Could also be reversed points/detectors under the ignition cover.

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1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
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- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
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31 Aug 2008 16:09 #234838 by steell
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I'd bet that you removed the cam lobe from the timing advancer and installed it 180 degrees out. Bunch of us have done that :D

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31 Aug 2008 16:12 #234839 by grinch77
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is the timing advancer the part under the points plate?

1978 KZ650\'82 KZ750 motor
1991 SE-R
Coweta,OK

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31 Aug 2008 17:08 - 31 Aug 2008 17:10 #234850 by Sandy
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It's the piece that's bolted to the crank.
Did you have that apart?
If you did,you might have put it back together,180 degrees out,like mentioned.

1977 KZ1000 A-1
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31 Aug 2008 20:05 #234889 by grinch77
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can some one post a pic of the part that needs to be turned.the one I thought it was is keyed to the crank no turning it.

1978 KZ650\'82 KZ750 motor
1991 SE-R
Coweta,OK

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31 Aug 2008 20:25 #234893 by The Milkman
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It's easier to just do a quck check by switching the negative wires on the coils.. green and black I do believe.

78 650-C2, Stock engine, Jardine 4-2 Exh., 17-38 sprockets, dyna ignition and coils, coil wiring mod, carb mod.
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31 Aug 2008 23:30 #234905 by donthekawguy
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You might have the wrong wires on the wrong plugs. Or is it the right wires on the wrong plugs. :dry:

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01 Sep 2008 03:13 #234917 by OnkelB
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grinch77 wrote:

can some one post a pic of the part that needs to be turned.the one I thought it was is keyed to the crank no turning it.


You're correct that the advancer itself is keyed to the crank and can only go on one way. However the points cam lobe (the center of the advance where the weights fit into) can be turned 180 degrees. Very easily verified on the 650: there's a scribe mark on the outer edge of the points cam lobe - that mark should point towards the hole in the backplate like in the pic below:


77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.

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01 Sep 2008 06:53 #234939 by grinch77
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Thank you for the pic OnkelB now that I know what I'm looking for I have verified that it is correct.

This morning i checked to see if I still have spark at the plugs I'm good there.Checked voltages to everything good there.So I'm down to either I have the carbs hooked up wrong or the points are shot.

Also when I turn the petcock to prime it just pukes gas out of the overflow tubes so I'm not sure what is going on there.

1978 KZ650\'82 KZ750 motor
1991 SE-R
Coweta,OK

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01 Sep 2008 10:51 #234988 by grinch77
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Wooohooo got it running still puking fuel out of the overflow tubes.And need a good tune on the carbs but hell at least it's running somewhat.

1978 KZ650\'82 KZ750 motor
1991 SE-R
Coweta,OK

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