Exhaust crack (complete break) welding?

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18 Aug 2008 22:37 #232831 by Justyn
Let me start by thanking everyone who has offered their opinion along the way. It's been invaluable along the way, as my Dad, whom I rely on for mechanical help when I'm unsure, knows as he puts it, "jack shit" about motorcycles. He's used to large diesel engines, found in construction/logging/mining equipment, but much more so, welding.

The other day, my exhaust broke, at what looks like a stock weld, between the left (sitting on the bike) header pipes, after they combine, and before the muffler. Like probably a half inch from where the actual muffler starts to cone out.

My question is, has anyone had experience or success welding these two pieces back together? I'm personally not great at welding, but my Dad is (been welding [not repetitive factory type] for a living for 20+ years), and he's going to help (do that part for me :)).

This may, or maybe should, branch off or be a double post in the carb section.

My other question is that if I were to cut both pipes off at that position, what would I have to do to the carbs to allow for basically no back pressure. That's really only a question if the welding doesn't work. I'm not looking to sink a pile of money into this machine, and what I've seen of new exhaust, it's a pile of money, in my book.

I'm not terribly concerned with sound, much more with efficiency and proper operation.

I'm about to edit my sig to say that it's not pretty, but it works. I'm basically trying to limp along a $50 bike as long as I can before it nickels, dimes, and Grants me to death. Don't get me wrong I love the bike, and the ride, but I'm pretty sure that is mostly because it's my first. Lets all look back to our first serious girlfriend, and I'm sure there's a certain sense of fondness/nostalgia there (all the bad shit aside, time heals all wounds ;)).

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19 Aug 2008 04:07 #232847 by harm
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That should be no problem to weld. Anyone with some experience should be able to fix it for you.

If i were you i would not cut the exhaust off, it would be incredibly loud and you would need to do some rejetting. I think you would be happier by having the pipe welded:)

Tom
Holland, MI

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19 Aug 2008 05:46 #232852 by BSKZ650
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a good mig welder should slove that problem, just hope it is not rusted out and that is what caused the break

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19 Aug 2008 08:10 - 19 Aug 2008 08:12 #232875 by riverroad
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Yeah, could be rusted, but with a torch, some sheet metal and a hammer, you can patch just about anything and make it last a while longer.
But you wouldn't want to run it with just the collector pipe.
I'd take the bike down to a muffler shop and see if they can bend and tack something workable into place. Then take it home and weld it up and paint it black.
On ebay recently, I saw a header with a Cherrybomb muffler welded onto it.
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19 Aug 2008 09:45 #232892 by PLUMMEN
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id find a piece of tubing with the same outside diameter as the inside diameter of the broken pipes and use it to slug the pipes back together before welding it back together.;)

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19 Aug 2008 11:18 #232913 by coppertales
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I have a system I bought that has a crack in the same place. I was wondering if the chrome would affect any welding job? I suppose a good welding shop could tell me.....chris3

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19 Aug 2008 12:22 #232929 by riverroad
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Coppertales, the chrome wouldn't hurt the weld, but the chrome will burn off near the weld, and will rust thereafter, unless you keep touching it up with high temp aluminum paint. It'll still never be as pretty as original.

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20 Aug 2008 07:59 #233077 by coppertales
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Thanks....the crack is on the top so it would only be seen by me when I have the pipes off.....chris3

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