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22 Jun 2008 16:01 #221550
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Chattanooga, TN
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I assume these are toast. Probably a third of the bearings out of the KZP engine I'm rebuilding have this color change from silver to gold seen here, and the texture changes from smooth to rough.
The camshaft appears fine, though I've not yet made any measurements, so it could worn out of spec.
Is this type of wear typical for a cam bearing, and what does that tell me about the camshaft?
The camshaft appears fine, though I've not yet made any measurements, so it could worn out of spec.
Is this type of wear typical for a cam bearing, and what does that tell me about the camshaft?
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22 Jun 2008 16:35 #221553
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How many miles on the engine?
The wear looks fairly typical for a moderate mileage engine - 20K or more.
The wear looks fairly typical for a moderate mileage engine - 20K or more.
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22 Jun 2008 17:03 #221558
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Mileage is almost 40k.
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22 Jun 2008 17:11 #221560
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Replace? Not a problem to. I've been working up a huge order for Z1 over the last few weeks as I go through the engine. As long as the camshafts themselves are okay, I'm happy.
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22 Jun 2008 18:01 #221564
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Sometimes that is oil stain. Wipe then with a piece of fine Scotchbrite and see how they look.
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22 Jun 2008 19:56 #221596
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Plastigage will tell you the wear. At 40k, I'd probably replace them anyway since it's easy to do.
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22 Jun 2008 20:12 #221602
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Those cam bearings are probably just fine. Put them in the parts washer and go lightly with some used 600 paper.
They'll probably clean right up. There may still be some light scouring marks in the bearings but it won't hurt a thing.
You'd be amazed at some of the cam bearings I've seen in heads that come through my shop and the guys will run them without any troubles.
I know..it sounds crazy and if you want to replace them, that's all well and fine BUT, rest assured that is not an uncommon situation and I've seen many of them touched up and reused......
They'll probably clean right up. There may still be some light scouring marks in the bearings but it won't hurt a thing.
You'd be amazed at some of the cam bearings I've seen in heads that come through my shop and the guys will run them without any troubles.
I know..it sounds crazy and if you want to replace them, that's all well and fine BUT, rest assured that is not an uncommon situation and I've seen many of them touched up and reused......
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23 Jun 2008 08:42 #221671
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Thanks to all for the advice....
I think cleaning them up and re-using is the way to go, if possible. If needed I can replace them later since they're not especially hard to get to. At least not as hard as a transmission bearing, for example. Also a complete set is $100+. This money is probably better spent on something deeper in the engine. Like transmission bearings.
I'll have at with some Scotchbrite/600 grit/parts cleaner and try to clean them up.
I think cleaning them up and re-using is the way to go, if possible. If needed I can replace them later since they're not especially hard to get to. At least not as hard as a transmission bearing, for example. Also a complete set is $100+. This money is probably better spent on something deeper in the engine. Like transmission bearings.
I'll have at with some Scotchbrite/600 grit/parts cleaner and try to clean them up.
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07 Jul 2008 19:36 #224783
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1980 KZ1000 A4(bought new),1979 KZ1000 MKII(bought new),1978 KZ1000 A (sold)1979 KZ1000 B LTD (sold)1976 KZ900 LTD (sold)1978 KZ750 twin (sold)
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Wont cam bearings with a lot of wear cause your oil pressure to drop after the engine is warmed up? Oil pressure isnt a big thing so much as oil flow of course,but if your bike has a lot of miles and low oil pressure too wouldnt it be best to replace the cam bearings? (if you monitor the pressures,temps,.. and so on)
1980 KZ1000 A4(bought new),1979 KZ1000 MKII(bought new),1978 KZ1000 A (sold)1979 KZ1000 B LTD (sold)1976 KZ900 LTD (sold)1978 KZ750 twin (sold)
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