Valve clearances. How Critical??

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18 Jun 2008 20:04 #220799 by TLH101
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The manual for my '78 KZ 650 calls for .15 mm valve clearance. How much tolerance will be acceptable? Most are at .12 or .13, however I have one at .08 and one at .20mm.
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18 Jun 2008 20:27 #220808 by mtkawboy
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.08 to .18mm for my GPZ750, loose is better then tight

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18 Jun 2008 23:20 #220833 by bountyhunter
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.05 - 0.10 mm for the 750 twin. That's .002" - .004", I keep mine in the range of .003 - .005".

A shade loose won't hurt, but a shade tight will cause the valve and valve seat to burn up and your head is toasted.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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18 Jun 2008 23:23 #220834 by bountyhunter
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TLH101 wrote:

The manual for my '78 KZ 650 calls for .15 mm valve clearance. How much tolerance will be acceptable? Most are at .12 or .13, however I have one at .08 and one at .20mm.
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I'm surprised the manual doesn't give a min/max range. The 0.08 - 0.18 mm number sounds reasonable, but the manual should say.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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19 Jun 2008 05:44 #220863 by larrycavan
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TLH101 wrote:

The manual for my '78 KZ 650 calls for .15 mm valve clearance. How much tolerance will be acceptable? Most are at .12 or .13, however I have one at .08 and one at .20mm.
Thanks


If the .08mm is on the exhaust side it's time to do the adjustment. That = .003" of cold clearance which is getting a little tight.

If not, those are temporarily, runnable clearances. What it can do though is cause uneven cylinder compression.

I suggest a tune up with carb synch is in the near future.

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19 Jun 2008 07:21 #220870 by TLH101
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The clearances I have noted are "absolute" cold. Engine has not been started in quite a while.

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19 Jun 2008 07:29 #220872 by wiredgeorge
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If the valves are tight, they will only get tighter and once they are tight enough, the uneven cylinder compression will become no compression. Buy some shims in kit form from z1enterprises.com and pop the valve cover and get to it!

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19 Jun 2008 12:31 #220940 by bountyhunter
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wiredgeorge wrote:

If the valves are tight, they will only get tighter and once they are tight enough, the uneven cylinder compression will become no compression. Buy some shims in kit form from z1enterprises.com and pop the valve cover and get to it!


And thank the Lord your engine uses the shims that are still available, not the 32 mm shims nobody sells anymore that go in my engine.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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19 Jun 2008 13:33 #220946 by mtkawboy
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The .08 to.18 is from a factory shop manual. What size are the Z1/KZ900/1000 shims, I have a ton of them ?

78-KZ1000/1105, 80 KZ1000, 82 Kawasaki GPZ750, 95 Harley Fatboy, 80 Suzuki GS1100ET, 81 GS1100E parts bike, 83 GS1100SD Katana/1394,78 Yamaha XT500, 81 Yamaha XS650, 78 Yamaha XS650E, 48 Whizzer model J motorbike, 71 Honda CT70H, 71 Honda CT70, 81 IT 250 Yamaha,82 Honda XL100S owned

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19 Jun 2008 15:17 #220960 by TLH101
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Thanks for the feedback. The .08-.18 number was what I needed. I have a Clymer manual, & it only said .15. I knew there needed to be some leeway. I can swap a couple of shims and get all the clearances where they need to be.
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