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20 Apr 2008 11:23 #207835 by grl06
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I have a 1981 kz1100 shaftie and I need to push start it to get it over to my mechanic. The only problem is I can't get it in a taller gear after neutral. I can get it in first, but it wont go in second or taller. Even while its being pushed it wont move into a taller gear. Would it make sense to try to push start it in first? I would expect that situation would end it disaster.

any ideas or comments welcome.

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20 Apr 2008 11:40 #207837 by mark1122
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it doesnt matter wich gear u push start in. it just makes it turn over more agresively in 1st. do u know what the issue is? most likely problem is bent shift fork.i beleave u can get at it from the bottom.u would have to remove the chain side covers as well to pull the fork shaft out.

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20 Apr 2008 11:47 #207839 by grl06
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My friend just told me his kawi zx12 did the same thing, it might just have a lock when its turned off and needs to be running to shift higher. but if I drop the clutch in first, something tells me im going to go flying.

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20 Apr 2008 12:43 #207851 by steell
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Kawasaki's patented "Positive Neutral Finder", the output shaft of the transmission has to be spinning fast enough to throw the three little balls out of their holes to unblock second gear.

So you have to push faster :D

I've never tried bump starting in first gear with a four, with a Yamaha XV920RH v twin I had, it was second gear "and" drop my butt on the seat at the same time I released the clutch in, otherwise the rear tire would just slide.

I just asked GPzInfested about his Turbo (he had a battery go dead while riding), and he said the 750 Turbo can be bump started in first.

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20 Apr 2008 17:09 #207894 by grl06
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hmmm, so if I drop the clutch in first im not going to go flying on my ass. To tell you the truth I am pretty scared at the outcome in my mind.

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20 Apr 2008 18:29 #207908 by steell
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The worst that will happen is the rear tire will slide instead of turning, and in that case you just pull the clutch lever again, then try second.

I rode that Yamaha XV920RH every day, all summer, bump starting it, finally bought a new starter solenoid during the winter.

KD9JUR

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21 Apr 2008 05:04 #207956 by BSKZ650
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I had a battery go bad on the 1000,, it was no big deal to bump start it in first, the rear tire gave a little hop at first but she fired right up

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21 Apr 2008 08:35 #207987 by violentvintagecycles
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You shouldnt go flying in first if you dont pin the throttle back while trying to bump start it. Do like your starting normally, choked and NO GAS. Once you hear it catch just pull the clutch lever in. No wheelies..
As for second gear starting, STEELL is absolutely right, you have to push faster to get it into second. I usually have my nephews push me..:P

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21 Apr 2008 21:19 #208119 by grl06
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thanks guys, get her running and man.. it was easy I kinda feel stupid for posting.

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