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03 Apr 2008 11:41 #203986 by vach
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after running my bike awhile the oil light flickers when idling. even if i just changed the oil. new petcock and carbs are not leaking. no gas in the oil. shoul i worry about this? i put 50w oil in it.

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vach

1979 kz650 B. Chicago, Illinois

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03 Apr 2008 12:44 #203997 by BSKZ650
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is that on you 650??, if so yes I would be worried, I normally run 10-40 in the bike, so you have 50wt in it and the light is flikering.
the first thing to check is that the oil pressure is where it needs to be, if so then it could be the sender or a bad wire causing it, but I would check the oile pressure first

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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03 Apr 2008 14:01 #204020 by bountyhunter
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Oil sending units are typically designed to light when the pressure drops to about 8 - 10 psi. That is very low, it usually means something is wrong. In cars, it almost always means the oil pump is shot.

You won't know if the sender is accurate until you actually plug a gauge in and measure the pressure.

The pumps on KZ's are supposed to hold up pretty well, but they are easy to replace if that is the problem.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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03 Apr 2008 14:03 #204021 by bountyhunter
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vach wrote:

after running my bike awhile the oil light flickers when idling. even if i just changed the oil. new petcock and carbs are not leaking. no gas in the oil. should I worry about this?


My factory manual only specs the oil pressure service limit at something like 3000 RPM, there is no spec at idle. Obviously, it would be a lot better if it wasn't that low, but I am not sure it means that it is unservicable.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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03 Apr 2008 14:51 #204032 by 650ed
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Pardon me for asking the obvious, but why are you putting 50W oil in an engine that calls for 10w40? I would start by putting in the correct oil, maybe the oil pump just can't push that molasses through the engine. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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04 Apr 2008 13:36 #204257 by vach
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the main reason i went with 50w is because the oil keeps breaking down. it gets to thin after the bike gets hot. the 40w and 30w are even worse. no gas in the oil though. the bike seems to get so hot that it's killing my oil. the plugs look good, not running lean, so i'm stumped. it just flickers at 1000rpm. anyone else have any suggestions?

1979 kz650 B. Chicago, Illinois

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04 Apr 2008 13:41 #204259 by bountyhunter
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vach wrote:

the main reason i went with 50w is because the oil keeps breaking down. it gets to thin after the bike gets hot. the 40w and 30w are even worse. no gas in the oil though. the bike seems to get so hot that it's killing my oil. the plugs look good, not running lean, so i'm stumped. it just flickers at 1000rpm. anyone else have any suggestions?


Blown head gasket could be letting combustion products blow into the crankcase. That causes overheating and fouls the oil.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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04 Apr 2008 13:58 #204262 by BSKZ650
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vach wrote:

the main reason i went with 50w is because the oil keeps breaking down. it gets to thin after the bike gets hot. the 40w and 30w are even worse. no gas in the oil though. the bike seems to get so hot that it's killing my oil. the plugs look good, not running lean, so i'm stumped. it just flickers at 1000rpm. anyone else have any suggestions?


could be a oil pump issue causing it to over heat, not enough oil will do that, at this point I think it might be safe to pull the pan and look for any damage before it gets worse

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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04 Apr 2008 14:02 #204264 by sean5775
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My KZ900 always flickered at Idle to Low RPM's when I used SAE40 Oil, but that stopped when I switched to Full Synthetic 20W50 or 10W40. Even with the SAE40 oil when I put an actual gauge on the engine, it showed decent oil pressure, but it is higher with the synthetic oil and the light rarely goes on anymore.

1972 Kawasaki H2-750 Triple Mach IV
1976 Kawasaki KZ900 A4
1981 Kawasaki KZ440 LTD
1981 Kawasaki KZ750LTD-4
1983 Suzuki GS650 Tempter
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04 Apr 2008 14:04 #204265 by sean5775
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BSKZ650 wrote:


could be a oil pump issue causing it to over heat, not enough oil will do that, at this point I think it might be safe to pull the pan and look for any damage before it gets worse


I would say if its overheating and not running lean, this would be a wise idea.

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1976 Kawasaki KZ900 A4
1981 Kawasaki KZ440 LTD
1981 Kawasaki KZ750LTD-4
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