OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
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OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 10:26
There are various repair activities that require keeping the engine from turning while loosening a high torque bolt or nut. Examples: removing the clutch hub nut, and removing the front sprocket nut. I do not have an air impact wrench, so I need to use a breaker bar, sometimes with an extender for extra leverage. Many people on this site have suggested facing the bike front wheel up against a wall to create resistance to keep the engine from turning. Sometimes I work in my yard or driveway (California weather is great), and a wall is just not handy.
Is there any reason I should not use the following substitute technique?: Place a large hardwood dowel (i.e., a closet rod) through the bike frame and spokes of the rear mag wheel, thus keeping the wheel and engine from turning when I torque on the breaker bar to remove the ofending nut/bolt. I know this should not be done with wire spokes (duh), but my bikes all have mags. I am risking damage to my wheel?
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Is there any reason I should not use the following substitute technique?: Place a large hardwood dowel (i.e., a closet rod) through the bike frame and spokes of the rear mag wheel, thus keeping the wheel and engine from turning when I torque on the breaker bar to remove the ofending nut/bolt. I know this should not be done with wire spokes (duh), but my bikes all have mags. I am risking damage to my wheel?
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 11:04
I don't see aproblem with that as long as your wheels are mags. I've used that technique for years before I got impact tools.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 11:17
Especially if you use wood to block the wheel, I would imagine. It would distribute the pressure where metal might cause a little fracture. Seems ok to me, using common sense of course.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 13:01 - 26 Mar 2008 13:03
To be on the save side you might want to 1st try a piece of wood that will break before you put enough pressure to crack the mag. Like a 2X2, rather than a 2X4.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 14:38 - 26 Mar 2008 14:39
I tried the up against the wall approach (with the bike that is) to loosen the clutch hub nut on my 650, but being fairly light (less than 180 lbs) I couldn´t prevent the back wheel from spinning by sitting on the bike - ended up sticking a broom handle in the rear wheel, worked like a charm.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
26 Mar 2008 21:20
I've heard about putting a penny in the gears where the clutch basket meshes, would that help you?
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
27 Mar 2008 06:42
I dunno if this helps in all situations but last year when I changed my drive sprocket I ran into a similar issue. My solution was to have my honey bunny step on the rear brake lever to jam the wheel while I turned off and on the sprocket nut, but this only works IF you still have your chain on both sprockets. It worked great.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
28 Mar 2008 20:35
lock up the brakes as previously mentioned.
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Re: OK to use wheel block to stop engine turning?
30 Mar 2008 08:08
davenkids2001 wrote:
Above method is what I had to do, with one big teenager on a pipe to crack the sprocket nut off.
I dunno if this helps in all situations but last year when I changed my drive sprocket I ran into a similar issue. My solution was to have my honey bunny step on the rear brake lever to jam the wheel while I turned off and on the sprocket nut, but this only works IF you still have your chain on both sprockets. It worked great.
Above method is what I had to do, with one big teenager on a pipe to crack the sprocket nut off.
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