will not start (non-kawi)

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05 Aug 2007 16:51 #161925 by freebyrd24
will not start (non-kawi) was created by freebyrd24
Alright this is a tricky one. In my title it says it is not about a kawi, but this is about a 1980 honda cm400t. i bought this for a motor to put into a four-wheeler project i have.

i love my kawi, and i absolutely hate this honda.

the honda was free so im dealing with it, since i could never dismantle a kawasaki. anywho, the bikes history is fairly unknown. i cleaned the two carbs and have plenty of fuel. i have great spark. the motor turns great and has plenty of juice, but just will not fire. it sputters just a little bit, but also backfires through the carb and into the airbox very frequently. any ideas on what is wrong with this thing? besides that its a honda? also the clutch is not working. when i push in the clutch with the bike in gear, it wont move, but rolls freely wen in neutral.

sorry for the lengthy questions about this. this is the best forum i have ever come across and cannot find a honda one.

- 1981 KZ1000-K1 LTD - Long term project
1075cc Kit - New Wiseco Pistons

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- 1978 kz650 SR, 4-1 Vance and Hines Full Exhaust, Dyna-S Ignition, Accel Coils and Wires

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05 Aug 2007 17:28 #161932 by The Milkman
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I feel you pain. I've been looking for a Honda too. I've been working on a 71 2 cylinder CB350 for a friend. He has a manual, but I think it's for every Honda ever made.

Hopefully, someone will but up a link.
Ride safe.

Post edited by: The Milkman, at: 2007/08/05 20:32

Post edited by: The Milkman, at: 2007/08/05 20:33

78 650-C2, Stock engine, Jardine 4-2 Exh., 17-38 sprockets, dyna ignition and coils, coil wiring mod, carb mod.

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05 Aug 2007 17:50 #161937 by JR
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One ignition coil or two ?

If two separate coils then perhaps check that you have the correct coil wired to fire at the correct time.

I wired the 2 separate coils on a CB250 ass backwards once and it did exactly as you describe.

1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust

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05 Aug 2007 17:52 #161939 by freebyrd24
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very interesting. i was trusting that the owner before me wouldnt have touched that but i will take a look at that tomorrow, thank you. Any other ideas?

- 1981 KZ1000-K1 LTD - Long term project
1075cc Kit - New Wiseco Pistons

Sold:
- 1978 kz650 SR, 4-1 Vance and Hines Full Exhaust, Dyna-S Ignition, Accel Coils and Wires

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05 Aug 2007 19:05 #161944 by coppertales
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Sounds like a timing problem, either ignition or valve. What is the compression? chris3

1982 KZ1100 A2
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1982 1100 SPECTRE

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06 Aug 2007 03:18 #161997 by tjettim
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Check your valve clearances.A tight intake
valve will backfire into the airbox.Then
check the timing.

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09 Aug 2007 17:45 #162870 by freebyrd24
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UPDATE

valve clearances have been checked and corrected. valves are now exactly where they need to be. The problem persists. Now when the bike backfires through the carb, the starter studders and makes a loud clap. only when it backfires through the carb. im still getting sputters and pops inconsistently out of the exhaust though. the ignition system is in correct order and working. the timing is not adjustable and the manual claims it will never need to do touched. it says to check the alternator and the cdi box only for that. also i have excellent spark. any other ideas? thanks for the responses thus far.

Post edited by: freebyrd24, at: 2007/08/09 20:46

- 1981 KZ1000-K1 LTD - Long term project
1075cc Kit - New Wiseco Pistons

Sold:
- 1978 kz650 SR, 4-1 Vance and Hines Full Exhaust, Dyna-S Ignition, Accel Coils and Wires

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