timing?

i have a 77 kz1000 ltd and i need to set the timing. i moved the breaker plate to try to advance the timing but it made no differance either way i moved it. am i doing something wrong or is that not how you set timing on this? thank you for any help!

did you have a timing light, and does it still have the point system?

yes it still is a point set up and i do have a timing light.

was there any change in the running of the engine when you were trying to time it?

no, not in the way it ran or the actual timing( looking at the f mark, it did not move)its only a little off but the bike takes a while to get up to speed. im not sure if this is the problem but i did notice its a little out of time so i figured i better fix it.

wonder if the mech advance unit is locked up

wylde76 wrote:

i have a 77 kz1000 ltd and i need to set the timing. i moved the breaker plate to try to advance the timing but it made no differance either way i moved it. am i doing something wrong or is that not how you set timing on this? thank you for any help!

Howdy, wylde76 -- This procedure is supposed to work (hope it helps):

Just looking -- Each points set is held by two screws (through slotted holes) to a back plate. Each back plate is held by two screws (through slotted holes) to the round mounting plate. The round mounting plate is held by three screws (through slotted holes) to the engine case. A cam fits through the advancer. The heels of the points ride the cam to open and close. A little oil soaked felt pad lubes the cam so the heels don't wear out so fast.

1st -- Adjust gaps -- Do this separately for each points set. Turn crankshaft clockwise using 17 mm wrench to widest points opening and adjust gap separately for each set of points at 0.3-0.4mm. Each points set has two base screws to very slightly loosen thereby allowing movement to open or close gap, then retighten after setting gap. The widest gap happens when the heel is resting on the highest part of the cam. At this stage nothing but the gap has been adjusted. But this is important because proper gap does affect the subsequent timing procedure. And other screws have remained tight.

2nd -- Set Timing -- Each points set has two mounting screws and pry slots which can be used with strobe light (after slightly loosening the two mounting screws to align the respective F marks with the timing mark. But if the adjusting plate doesn't travel far enough to allow correct adjustment, then loosen the three mounting plate screws and move the mounting plate.

3rd -- Tighten and recheck --Tighten all screws and recheck timing with strobe light.

thank you for all your help. i will get a chance to work on it in the next day or two. ill let you guys know if its ok. again i thank you for all the help.