from 1000 to 1100?

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24 Apr 2007 16:20 #133583 by wireman
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steell wrote:

81-82 KZ1100 head is the same as the J head, the 83-84 1100 head is different and much sought after, a 83-84 1100 head will sell for ~$600 or more on eBay, while a J or 81-82 1100 head will sell for ~$200.

Some people have said they stuck a 1100 block on a J without doing anything to the cases, while others have said the needed to clearance the case bores (commonly with a die grinder or dremel) to get them to fit, my guess is it depends on whether the case bores were bored to the high or low end of the tolerance range.

I just measured the diameter of the 1100 and 1000 J sleeves at the bottom of the two blocks I have, the 1100 is 78.64mm and the 1000 is 75.74mm according to my digital caliper.

On a side note, the 1000 J block has been bored for a 1105 kit, and it's easy to see why Jay (APE Jay) does not recommend the 1105 kit in a J 1000, those sleeves are really thin :woohoo:

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26 Apr 2007 15:38 #134286 by customkzft
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So I got the block and pistons today. Like I had Imagined the cylinder head cumbustion chamber is oviously smaller in diameter than the sleeves, so is it going to be a problem when I install the 1000 head on the 1100 block? or is ok the way it is?

Post edited by: customkzft, at: 2007/04/26 20:17

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26 Apr 2007 17:53 #134326 by wireman
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customkzft wrote:

So I got the block and pistons today. Like I had Imagined the cylinder head cumbustion chamber is oviously smaller in diameter than the sleeves, so is it going to be a problem when I install the 1000 head on the 1100 block? or is ok the way it is?<br><br>Post edited by: customkzft, at: 2007/04/26 20:17

lay your new head gasket on the head and scribe around it.post a picture of what youve got and we'll walk you through it;)

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26 Apr 2007 18:40 #134342 by Duck
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customkzft wrote:

So I got the block and pistons today. Like I had Imagined the cylinder head combustion chamber is obviously smaller in diameter than the sleeves, so is it going to be a problem when I install the 1000 head on the 1100 block? or is OK the way it is?<br><br>Post edited by: customkzft, at: 2007/04/26 20:17



Not a problem. Use the 1100 head gasket.

1100 sleeves will clear the crank.

Case may or may not fit. Luck of the draw AFAIK. Were it mine, if no fit, I'd split case and take advantage of the opportunity to replace all the seals and do any work toward planned future upgrades.

I have messed with but not finished...kz1100B2 and 87 KZP.
1100 head and KZP head are the same, aside from the exterior finish and drilled/tapped hole for CHT sensor.

-Duck

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26 Apr 2007 19:20 #134369 by customkzft
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here is a rought drawing of what im talking about wireman, I'm at work right now so I wont be able to take any pics so this is all i could do for now

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26 Apr 2007 19:49 #134407 by wireman
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customkzft wrote:

here is a rough drawing of what im talking about wireman, I'm at work right now so I wont be able to take any pics so this is all i could do for now

obviously a graduate of the wireman school of picture posting!:whistle: :woohoo: :silly: :woohoo: :silly: :woohoo: :silly: :woohoo: :silly: :woohoo: :silly: :pinch: :P

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26 Apr 2007 20:20 #134449 by customkzft
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sorry, My work computer stinks! Didnt realize it posted so much
i169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/volvo960r/KZ110000.jpg

ok here is a link to yhe picture, If someone wants to post it then great! :cheer: :side: :whistle: :pinch:

Post edited by: customkzft, at: 2007/04/26 23:35

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26 Apr 2007 20:36 #134458 by wireman
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dont worry i do the same thing all the time,but im a geek!:P

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26 Apr 2007 21:13 #134469 by customkzft
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any thoughts? or is this something common?

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27 Apr 2007 12:34 #134710 by wireman
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if its just a little bit past the gasket take a file or dremel and just knock the sharp edge off the combution chamber so it doesnt become a hot spot ;)

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27 Apr 2007 15:12 #134760 by customkzft
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OK well here is the news

The 1100 head fits perfectly on the 1000 cases!

Is the head gasket supposed to be the same size as the sleeves? or a bit smaller?

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28 Apr 2007 16:00 #135030 by 77KZ650
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the same size, you dont want it sticking out in the way.are you using a 1000 gasket or an 1100 gasket? the 1000 will be smaller for the smaller bore, but you can dremmel it to the right size. I cant see your pic tho, page not found

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