KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

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KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 07:54
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1982 KZ1100 shaft.
I started to check my valve clearances, and the only marks I can find on the camshaft sprockets are:

ANDREWS EXH
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ANDREWS INT

Does anyone know anything about these cams, or how to check if the cam timing is correct?

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 08:02
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It is an adaptor sprocket and they made them with no marks.

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 08:06
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Any suggestions on technique to check my cam timing is correct?

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 17:15
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FloridaBiker wrote:
Any suggestions on technique to check my cam timing is correct?

The cam specs, a dial indicator, and a lot of patience. Or just order a new set of adapter sprockets from APE (they have marks).
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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 20:38
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I am comfortable with the tools.

I don't know any history on this engine.

A sharp bike mechanic told me he thinks it has a big bore kit and that the Andrews cams are probably more pure race than street.

I hope not.

Anyway, since I don't know where to time the cams (no marks or instructions that I am aware of) am I in the realm of trial and error?

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

11 Mar 2007 21:50
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What is the number of the Andrews cam?

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

12 Mar 2007 05:52
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APE Jay wrote:
What is the number of the Andrews cam?

Jay

On the intake cam;
At the timing sprocket:
ANDREWS INT
on the cam (visible from above the engine):
5L R

On the exhaust cam;
At the timing sprocket:
ANDREWS EXH
on the cam (visible from above the engine):
3L R

I can find no other marks except:

* 1 tiny dot on each cam sprocket. It could be construed as a timing mark, but referenced to what?

*2 At the left side at the end of both cams are 4 indexed marks at 90 degree separation.

*3 On the right side at the end of both cams are square notches about 3/16"

Drawings attached. (I got poor picture quality when I tried to take a digital closeup)

Post edited by: FloridaBiker, at: 2007/03/12 08:55

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

12 Mar 2007 06:49
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The number should be stamped on the end of the cam and have an X in it if they are andrews. Like 2X 3X etc.

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

12 Mar 2007 10:21
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There is definitely no other number stamped on the end of the cams.
Could it be the 3L and 5R I found on the side of the cams?

The exhaust cam has a worm drive gear that is not in use, between the sprocket and #3 exhaust lobe. Could that be for a tachometer on some other model?

Also there is no double stripe marking on the cam, like the factory 1100 cams.

Could it be a Andrews sprocket and some other cam?

Any ideas appreciated.

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

12 Mar 2007 13:44
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Bump.
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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

13 Mar 2007 01:16
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If it doesn't have the X number, then they are not Andrews. Only the sprockets are.

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Re: KZ1100 - Andrews Cams - No timing marks??

13 Mar 2007 07:51
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Do they have the little notches on one end like your showing in your diagram? If so they are stock z1/kz1000 cams. If you could measure the lift you would know for sure.

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