Looking at Z1s
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Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 08:55 - 24 Nov 2025 08:57
I really love my 78 LTD but I am looking to expand to add another superbike of the era, a Z1. I'm game for any year but the 73 is the preferred (but definitely open to nice 74/75), and BONE stock other than say a period dual disc front addition, oring chain, and/or a dyna ignition. Still want the factory parts though for any deviations to return to stock if desired. I'm hoping to start the looking at specific bikes journey in January and hopefully find one worth getting for summer.
It seems the value is putting it to a point where people are bitsa style piecing bikes together. There's this bike on BAT that looks nice but has a lot incorrect: bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-kawasaki-z1-900-24/
What advice do people have to get a nice bike and any sources or guides to help?
I have this book and wonder what people think as well as other reference material that's good to look at: www.amazon.com/Kawasaki-KZ900-KZ1000-Ent...x%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1
I would love when I get serious to know how I could elicit the opinions of the experts here since a lot of you know these bikes super well and are invaluable! I've helped people on Corvettes and Jags as has my dad, and I know how invaluable the consulting an expert enthusiast is great to get the right vehicle
. BTW this is my journey with a return to stock on my LTD:
www.kzrider.com/forum/10-new-members/621...rom-mi-78-kz1000-ltd
It seems the value is putting it to a point where people are bitsa style piecing bikes together. There's this bike on BAT that looks nice but has a lot incorrect: bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-kawasaki-z1-900-24/
What advice do people have to get a nice bike and any sources or guides to help?
I have this book and wonder what people think as well as other reference material that's good to look at: www.amazon.com/Kawasaki-KZ900-KZ1000-Ent...x%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1
I would love when I get serious to know how I could elicit the opinions of the experts here since a lot of you know these bikes super well and are invaluable! I've helped people on Corvettes and Jags as has my dad, and I know how invaluable the consulting an expert enthusiast is great to get the right vehicle
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Re: Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 10:18
Welcome to the Z1 nut club! As far as the BAT you referenced - run away from it. In my opinion that bike looks to be a cobbled "restored to original" that's getting shuffled between opportunists (or scam artists). There are authentic nice originals still out there and accurate restorations by reputable people (some are members here), but be prepared to PAY for one. The listing you showed sets off all the alarm bells! Most obvious is the speedometer - it's an aftermarket repro they're claiming to be original ND. A bike like you are searching for will have a known history, BTW.
The book by Chris Rooke you have is a good restoration guide, but he does his restoring on a budget (his claim) and therefore will use repro or aftermarket parts. Nothing wrong with that.
If you can find a copy of David Marsden's book on Z1 Z900 and KZ900, it will give you a better background to recognize original bikes.
Don't get discouraged, a Z1 that fits your taste is out there, but be prepared to do a lot of looking. My Z1 taste is more of a hotrod bike, but there are plenty of members on KZR that are original bike fans, and we'll all be happy to help you find the right Z1, just ask.
The book by Chris Rooke you have is a good restoration guide, but he does his restoring on a budget (his claim) and therefore will use repro or aftermarket parts. Nothing wrong with that.
If you can find a copy of David Marsden's book on Z1 Z900 and KZ900, it will give you a better background to recognize original bikes.
Don't get discouraged, a Z1 that fits your taste is out there, but be prepared to do a lot of looking. My Z1 taste is more of a hotrod bike, but there are plenty of members on KZR that are original bike fans, and we'll all be happy to help you find the right Z1, just ask.
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Andrews 1X Cams
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530 conversion
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Re: Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 10:41
Oh absolutely no question; thats a hodgepodge, I was using that as an example of the bits and pieces assembled bikes I want to avoid
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I just bought the book: z1parts.net/original-kawasaki-z1-z900-kz...ers-guide-hardcover/
I don't mind some reproduction parts as long as the honesty is there and the pricing correct accordingly. I don't want to pay all OEM and original money for an aftermarket or repop part containing bike that's worth less in terms of dollars. That said, I really like riding these bikes and despite being 38 and not there for the original heyday, my dad was and loves these too and we like riding my bikes together. He's owned a 73 Z1, 79 LTD, 69 CB750 Sandcast, and various other hot bikes in era. That said, riding my much less fancy 75 CB750 is still a blast, my LTD is basically new condition, and riding both together is a lot of fun.
I just bought the book: z1parts.net/original-kawasaki-z1-z900-kz...ers-guide-hardcover/
I don't mind some reproduction parts as long as the honesty is there and the pricing correct accordingly. I don't want to pay all OEM and original money for an aftermarket or repop part containing bike that's worth less in terms of dollars. That said, I really like riding these bikes and despite being 38 and not there for the original heyday, my dad was and loves these too and we like riding my bikes together. He's owned a 73 Z1, 79 LTD, 69 CB750 Sandcast, and various other hot bikes in era. That said, riding my much less fancy 75 CB750 is still a blast, my LTD is basically new condition, and riding both together is a lot of fun.
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Re: Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 10:52 - Yesterday 17:31
Yeah, that's the book I referred to. You're right, that was an extreme example of your hodge podge point! I've had my Z1 since around 1980 (I'm 70 now) and other bikes came and went over the years but always kept the Z1, it's my favorite. I revived it a couple years ago when I retired and there's nothing better than a ride on a Z1.
And Z1parts is a good source for quality Z1 stuff - an honest and reliable vendor.
edit: my first car in 1974 was a 1969 spitfire, couldn't find a GT6 I could afford.
And Z1parts is a good source for quality Z1 stuff - an honest and reliable vendor.
edit: my first car in 1974 was a 1969 spitfire, couldn't find a GT6 I could afford.
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Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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Re: Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 11:24
Looks like a bargain compared to this POS currently for sale in the UK - (this guy states in his ads "priced firm not negotiable") remember this is Sterling so approx 6000 of your USD's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Looking at Z1s
24 Nov 2025 11:33
Scotty
1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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Re: Looking at Z1s
Yesterday 16:39
The best book by far on Z1's is John Brookes' book. You can find the latest and most comprehensive edition on Z Power.
I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar.
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Re: Looking at Z1s
Yesterday 20:39
We have two members on FB KZMarket that pics up used ones and sell them all the time.
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Yesterday 06:30
Dang Wookie!! I have a better Exact same 1978 LTD1000 sitting in the outbuilding that has ALL the missing parts that one shown is lacking. I would be negotiable at 6K USD, ha. NICE go by name TriumphGT6! I used to have a 1972 GT6 MK3 years ago that ran, still remember that interior "smell" all those euro cars had. I do a lot of picky high-end Z1/Z2 work and you are definitely correct about those FaNcY auction houses, they rarely have the Bonafide staff to properly judge these machines.
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Yesterday 09:05 - Yesterday 09:21
To poke the "slap me some shiny" patterns parts on there re-sellers and i'll make me a windfall crowd. It's going to bring down the over all value of these machines in the coming future. I call it lazy but to each their own? Persons seem not to care about the original or waste time looking or refurbishing stuff, sad.. Persons want, as shown as an example brake hoses, new. That's a safety thing of course but have no clue the originals were made by Nichirin and couldn't care less also had the datecoded rubberband with print on the length of hose itself. Cables (TSK), gauges (ND), switchblocks for handlebars (AD), headlights and lenses (Stanley and/or Koito), wiring (Sumitomo), master cylinders (Tokiko) and many more specific made bits, All parts went to the dumpster in favor of Emgo/Motion pro or some cheap 19.99 pos. Luckily i steer clear of those folks and just sit back and laugh. Plus of course one needs where to look when sourcing correct parts and even the ones from Kawasaki have been superseded and unrecognizable from the original. Gotta have resources to find the original 8 digit part numbers NOT the updated 9-Digit available stuff. I could go on and on and onnn... but i can see everyone's eyes wandering and glazing over, haha. Triumph here's that 6th edition that has been mentioned. He's composing another, talked to him, we are still trying to figure the "meaning" of those fork lower Alpha/Numeric, Numeric/Numeric codes just above the axle, doubt we will ever know.. We are guessing..
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Yesterday 10:29Sure ain’t a lot of 75 Z1B left !!!!!Dang Wookie!! I have a better Exact same 1978 LTD1000 sitting in the outbuilding that has ALL the missing parts that one shown is lacking. I would be negotiable at 6K USD, ha. NICE go by name TriumphGT6! I used to have a 1972 GT6 MK3 years ago that ran, still remember that interior "smell" all those euro cars had. I do a lot of picky high-end Z1/Z2 work and you are definitely correct about those FaNcY auction houses, they rarely have the Bonafide staff to properly judge these machines.
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Yesterday 10:35
I'm always in awe of such extensive expertise regarding all the parts used in a "Z"!
(For my part, over the last 45 years I've "only" been a "Z" rider and owner, or, in the case of a rebuild, restoration, or repair, naturally interested in original parts... but I didn't and don't have such explicit knowledge of which part numbers correspond to which model year.)I've always admired this expertise, and, connected to it, these 100% restorations (which, of course, bring in so much value and money
((On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be racking up the miles on such a super-jewel myself... every stone chip, bit of wear and tear, or even the slightest damage would really bother me... but usually, these kinds of gems are rarely driven and are more likely to be found in a collection, or "driven" to contests as trailer queens.))
But thats only my personal feeling about,.... i congrating every guy, who have the $$$, the patience and the knowledgements to collect the special parts and srew them together with the right hand for it! Everytime a great moment to see theese beauties shining!
(For my part, over the last 45 years I've "only" been a "Z" rider and owner, or, in the case of a rebuild, restoration, or repair, naturally interested in original parts... but I didn't and don't have such explicit knowledge of which part numbers correspond to which model year.)I've always admired this expertise, and, connected to it, these 100% restorations (which, of course, bring in so much value and money
((On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be racking up the miles on such a super-jewel myself... every stone chip, bit of wear and tear, or even the slightest damage would really bother me... but usually, these kinds of gems are rarely driven and are more likely to be found in a collection, or "driven" to contests as trailer queens.))
But thats only my personal feeling about,.... i congrating every guy, who have the $$$, the patience and the knowledgements to collect the special parts and srew them together with the right hand for it! Everytime a great moment to see theese beauties shining!
Greetings, Joe
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