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25 Jan 2022 09:18 - 25 Jan 2022 09:18 #861061
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I've finally finished my trike. It was a long time coming but now that I've retired I have the time. Let me know what you think.
Bill/KZQ
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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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25 Jan 2022 11:51 #861067
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1977 KZ650 B1
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Trikes are not my cup of tea so to speak, but you have built a very nice looking one.
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25 Jan 2022 15:01 #861085
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1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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It is good to see it on the road. It looks like it handles pretty well. Does it meet your expectations?
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25 Jan 2022 16:03 - 25 Jan 2022 16:05 #861093
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I did learn a lesson once when I chopped the throttle closed at about 20 MPH in first gear. The gearing caused the tires to chirp and bounce and pretty soon the bike was giving me a three wheel bull ride. I solved the problem by dropping the rear tire pressure to about 15 PSI. As I said somewhere else this machine will rarely see duty and then only if I can find a parade to blend into.
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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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1985 ZN1300
Replied by KZQ on topic 750 Twin Trike
I can't say what I expected from the ride. I'm pretty sure that the rake and trail would be different had the bike been designed as a three wheeler. As the rear wheels hit every little bump in the road it feeds into the steering. I fitted this steering damper to prevent the front end from the lurching side to side. It works well but it greatly increases the effort to turn the bars. I suppose it's no big deal.It is good to see it on the road. It looks like it handles pretty well. Does it meet your expectations?
I did learn a lesson once when I chopped the throttle closed at about 20 MPH in first gear. The gearing caused the tires to chirp and bounce and pretty soon the bike was giving me a three wheel bull ride. I solved the problem by dropping the rear tire pressure to about 15 PSI. As I said somewhere else this machine will rarely see duty and then only if I can find a parade to blend into.
Regards
Bill
www.KZ1300.com
Riders:
1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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1985 ZN1300
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26 Jan 2022 05:41 - 26 Jan 2022 05:42 #861119
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looks pretty good to me. nice n simple design. is it a hardtail? just wondering. never mind. I see the shocks.
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26 Jan 2022 15:43 #861147
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That's a tidy looking little trike you have there Bill. Play around with the adjustment on the steering damper to find the sweet spot, I've used them a lot and found that you usually don't need a lot of tension to improve front end behaviour. You may also have to play around with the rear shocks to get it handling better down back, they are still supporting the same weight above the shock but unsprung weight is much more, that will drastically effect compression rebound damping abilities of the shocks.. Maybe try and find someone who knows a bit about setting up trikes, I know a guy in Australia but that's no good to you in the USA...
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27 Jan 2022 19:21 - 28 Jan 2022 07:29 #861212
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1985 ZN1300
Replied by KZQ on topic 750 Twin Trike
I posted it to Rumble. Let's see how well it works:
rumble.com/embed/vquzik/?pub=xlh4y
Not very well all I can do is link it.
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rumble.com/embed/vquzik/?pub=xlh4y
Not very well all I can do is link it.
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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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07 Feb 2022 05:11 #861918
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Awesome, and congratulations! cool looking scoot, made for fun.
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07 Feb 2022 09:20 #861927
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I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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It looks good! I was going to ask if you added rake but I think you already answered that question. Does the rear end have independent suspension?
I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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07 Feb 2022 10:06 #861931
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In research (after 25 miles on my trike) Pick is my shock setup, when I received it.
I realized folks want to put 2 shocks (think rear axle articulation),but in reality your rear swing arm just tilts your whole vehicle.
Every manufacture of 3 and 4 wheelers(not side x side) put single shock in the center of the swing arm( like sport bikes).
When I had shocks on the left and right it rode like a hay wagon, it was bound as soon the rear moved in any way(especially at highway speeds).
Have you measured your trail? More rake and more trail help A LOT over 60mph, but hurt the Nimbleness.
Be Well
I realized folks want to put 2 shocks (think rear axle articulation),but in reality your rear swing arm just tilts your whole vehicle.
Every manufacture of 3 and 4 wheelers(not side x side) put single shock in the center of the swing arm( like sport bikes).
When I had shocks on the left and right it rode like a hay wagon, it was bound as soon the rear moved in any way(especially at highway speeds).
Have you measured your trail? More rake and more trail help A LOT over 60mph, but hurt the Nimbleness.
Be Well
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07 Feb 2022 14:07 #861948
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The main problem at the rear is the added unsprung weight , when adding the dual wheels and diff, also, the rear suspension wants to now act as independent , as your wheels are now outboard and want to react as a car suspension would, wheels going up and down independently, you now get binding at the swingarm pivot because it only wants to go up and down..
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11 Feb 2022 19:41 #862149
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Shankkole,
Looking at your axle , do I see that it's an actual Harley Servi Car axle?
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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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1985 ZN1300
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You're right 750 R1. The swing arm bearings are heavily used, at least. These are double needle bearings per side and so far they're really rigid. Another factor is the double dog bone arrangement which keeps the swing arm stiff against lateral twisting forces.The main problem at the rear is the added unsprung weight , when adding the dual wheels and diff, also, the rear suspension wants to now act as independent , as your wheels are now outboard and want to react as a car suspension would, wheels going up and down independently, you now get binding at the swingarm pivot because it only wants to go up and down..
Shankkole,
Looking at your axle , do I see that it's an actual Harley Servi Car axle?
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Riders:
1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
Projects:
1985 ZN1300
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