KZ700 Bogs down when releasing clutch. Ideas??

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27 Apr 2016 17:59 #723332 by johngeiser
Hi guys! I'm totally new here! I Just purchased a running kz700 for super cheap the other day! I really like the looks of it and intend on doing some upgrades here and there. It doesn't ride half bad either.

But heres my issue. I brought it home, flushed the tank and got it to run half decent. I put 10 miles on it last night. But today I went out and attempted to take it for a spin. It idled fine, revved fine, but as soon as i let the clutch out it started to bog. I noticed the kick stand switch, and figured that might be it. But then i really revved it and let the clutch out and it was able to move, but kept bogging whenever I let the clutch out, literally almost dying on me. So I ruled out the kick stand switch.

The carbs were recently rebuilt and synced, but I believe it could still need some tuning done to it.

I'm not asking for a quick fix, but rather a place to start. Plugs seem to be on correctly, its getting fuel, and the clutch seems to be functioning properly. Any ideas? Thanks dudes!

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27 Apr 2016 18:32 #723337 by Patton
Hello, John, and WELCOME to KZr! :cheer:

Would first assure that the advancer is properly functioning.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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27 Apr 2016 18:50 #723342 by johngeiser
Replied by johngeiser on topic KZ700 Bogs down when releasing clutch. Ideas??
Hi! Thanks for the quick response.

Aren't all KZ700 CDI and fully electronic?

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27 Apr 2016 19:02 #723343 by retterath
Replied by retterath on topic KZ700 Bogs down when releasing clutch. Ideas??
Are you in first gear? Are the brakes dragging?

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27 Apr 2016 19:24 #723350 by rinferno
Replied by rinferno on topic KZ700 Bogs down when releasing clutch. Ideas??
What Ret said, check the brakes from dragging, like stuck pistons in your brake calipers, Not uncommon with bike has been sitting for awhile.

1982 gpz 750

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27 Apr 2016 20:02 #723358 by Patton

johngeiser wrote: . . . Aren't all KZ700 CDI and fully electronic?


Am thinking you are correct in that the KZ700 doesn't have a mechanical timing advancer with springs and weights.

The following thread may help somewhat, but doesn't get into how to check timing, with, for example, a timing light.
www.kzrider.com/forum/4-electrical/53036...-a-1984-kz700#530360

Is a Factory Service Manual available?

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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27 Apr 2016 20:31 - 27 Apr 2016 20:31 #723366 by Patton
For a free downloadable KZ750 4-cyl service manual, use this link, and scroll down to "The Bible" ---
mbsween.bike-night.com/kz750l3/index.html

The manual includes 1984 KZ700-A1.
The following timing info is from page 409.



Perhaps the manual provides more detail about checking timing with a strobe light in another section dealing with a KZ750 model. :unsure:

Good Fortune!

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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27 Apr 2016 20:53 - 27 Apr 2016 20:54 #723370 by Patton
Check out page 373 --



If the timing checks out okay, would suspect imperfect carb pilot circuits.

Will the engine freely rev up with the transmission in neutral?

Is it possible to get up to road speed in the mid-throttle range, say 60-70 mph, to evaluate performance beyond the pilot circuit?
In other words, is performance otherwise acceptable except for low rpm lack of power and bogging at pull-away from idle?

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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27 Apr 2016 23:45 #723381 by Gregl
doesn't any bike die out when you release the clutch?

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27 Apr 2016 23:59 #723382 by ltdrider
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Make sure the choke is off.

'76 KZ900 LTD (Blaze)
'96 Voyager XII (Dark Star)
'79 KZ650 Cafe Project (Dirty Kurt)
Greensboro, NC

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28 Apr 2016 05:29 #723398 by KZJOE900
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Only time this has happened and required lots of throttle to take off. Happened when I initially got the bike on the road and had the original chain installed. After about a hundred miles the chain stretched considerably. This caused my bogging and extra throttle requirement. Changed to a new properly adjusted chain and everything was fine. I know it sounds far fetched that this could be a factor. But in my case it was. Takes 2 minutes to check your chain slack.

Current project 76 KZ900 (This was a Vetter model)
76 KZ900
81 XJ550H SECA (Current Project)
82 XJ550R SECA
Past:
86 FJ1200
74 Z1900
72 CB450

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28 Apr 2016 05:47 #723403 by Nessism
We need more information about the problem. Realize of course that it's perfectly normal for the bike to not run properly when it's cold. That's why the bike has a choke feature. Typically it takes several miles of running for the bike to come up to temp and accept throttle properly without the choke open.

Also realize that the bike needs to be in a proper state of up to date maintenance before you can diagnose running issues. Things like properly adjusted valves, the airbox and air filter installed, or the carbs properly tuned for any mods, etc.

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