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07 May 2013 17:06 #586183 by RobK
Just bought a 73 Z1 - what to do? was created by RobK
So I've gone from owning one 76 KZ900 to owning 5 z/kzs after I bought out everything Kawasaki from the family of a neighbor who just passed. (Rest in Peace, Bill)

Some great stuff in there - lots of drag racing gear (anyone need a wheelie bar or giant solid rear rim that looks like it takes a car tire??)

One of the rollers is a real-deal '73 Z1 - (frame number 0149xx), with what what appears to be the original engine (engine number is less than 100 digits from frame number).

The bike is mostly complete, including the clocks, mirrors, all its lights, grab rail, etc. It's missing the side covers and the tail cowl, (though I did get a tail cowl with it that was painted orange, but after some very careful sanding, appears to be Z1 brown underneath). It's also, crucially, missing the original 4 into 4, and has a 4 into 1 Kerker-style.

It has the original tank, and original paint. The clear coat on the top has peeled, and there appears to be some sun fading, and some very shallow dents on one side, (I've gotten dents this shallow out before without harming the paint - so I reckon fixable).

Other than that, I think the only original pieces missing are the airbox (have the original carbs with the 17mm bolts in the bottom of the float bowls), and the seat needs recovering, though it does appear to be the right stitching pattern, ie. original.

The bike shows 37k on the clock, and I know for certain is it's been off the road for at least 13 years, likely significantly longer.

The engine is currently out of the bike, with the head and jugs off.

The bike needs a restore for sure. The paint on the motor is chipped in places, and faded on items like the master cylinder. However, I can find very few parts on the bike that look like they were replaced, and being a Colorado bike, there is almost no rust on it. Even the grips look original, and the little ribbed boot on the MC is still in good shape and I have the little tray with the wiring diagram in the seat, (though no tool kit).

I really prefer to mod bikes (my 76 thread is on here, though been a bit ignored as I finish a Triumph bobber), so don't usually mess with restores. I know the historical significance of this machine, so probably best to let the OEM-guys have this one, especially as this one escaped any fram mods, chops, etc.

My question is this: Is it better (more desirable), for a restorer to have the bike in its present shape (partially disassembled), or should I get this thing up and running, or go for the full restore?

It's a wonderful machine and a great piece of history, but I like my welder and angle grinder too much for "historically significant".

So to all you guys out there that de restos - what's your take?

Thanks

PS - Attached is a pic of the bike (wrong seat on it).

PPS - here's a mock up of the '75 that's on deck. ZX7 front end and rear wheel, single "club-foot" drag swingarm. oilandsteel.tumblr.com/image/49447248688

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07 May 2013 17:24 #586184 by etbike3135
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07 May 2013 17:35 #586185 by Kidkawie
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Looks like a decent candidate for a restore. The matching numbers is the key. However, is the frame number in the 14,000 range or 1,400 range?

That will make a huge difference.

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07 May 2013 18:11 #586188 by DoubleDub
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Bob or chop it :P

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07 May 2013 18:51 #586196 by 650ed
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DoubleDub wrote: Bob or chop it :P


Agreed - make a chopper! A nice flat black peanut tank, hard tail, BSA engine, springer front end, and ape hangers! It will be unique. Oh, and a brown king & queen seat with attached sissy bar, lest it look incomplete! :P Ed

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07 May 2013 19:01 #586198 by Mcdroid
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Join www.kawasaki-z-classik.com It is a focus group aimed at restorations of Z1's and early KZ900/KZ1000. Very nice people with an absolute wealth of information.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

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07 May 2013 19:03 #586199 by RobK
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Kidkawie wrote: Looks like a decent candidate for a restore. The matching numbers is the key. However, is the frame number in the 14,000 range or 1,400 range?

That will make a huge difference.


14k for sure. Date stamps on the head stock, swing arm and rear brake bar all indicate a build of 5/73 (happy 40th, me old boy).

So not a super early one, but def a 73. Also has no wear indicator on the rear drum - apparently another sign of an early(ish) model.

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07 May 2013 19:09 #586201 by RobK
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DoubleDub wrote: Bob or chop it :P


Ha ha. I now have enough frames (4, not including the 73 and my mostly built 76), to build whatever I want, so can let the restorers have this one and I can hot-rod the others.

I also have a bunch of othere parts I bought, (Eg about 8 heads, 7 bottom ends and 9 sets of carbs, etc). I need to separate what I'm keeping and then sell the rest (to finance these builds). I'll make sure to post something in the classifieds here before putting it all up on ebay. With the amount of parts I bought, I'm sure they'll be something useful for some folks here.

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07 May 2013 19:11 #586202 by RobK
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Mcdroid wrote: Join www.kawasaki-z-classik.com It is a focus group aimed at restorations of Z1's and early KZ900/KZ1000. Very nice people with an absolute wealth of information.


Many thanks! It's been really fun digging up info on this machine - checking for little details to see if it is indeed intact, original, etc.

Looking forward to digging some more in the link above.

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07 May 2013 20:55 #586218 by kzcurt
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IMO stock IS custom, meaning so many are not, the originals restores are almost more "custom" then some of the customs are....confused? :blink:

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08 May 2013 18:55 #586394 by RobK
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kzcurt wrote: IMO stock IS custom, meaning so many are not, the originals restores are almost more "custom" then some of the customs are....confused? :blink:


Ha ha - yeah, the definition of "all original" can get slippery. Apparently all the cells in our body regenerate every 7 years or so. Are we "factory original" then, or just repros? ;)

In fact, one of the reasons I like to customize is keep the bike a living, breathing thing that evolves.

Having said that, with this machine, (and my '79 RD400 Daytona, the bike's place in history does come into play (first and last of it's kind, respectively).

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20 Jun 2013 07:37 #593189 by GregZ
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Bike is here. I'll see what I can do whit it
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