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New Bike Wrong Title
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a title. a bill of sale and a police inspection should be enough.
go to th PO and get a bill of sale signed and notorized with the correct VIN get a police inspection done and take that to the DMV they will give you a hassle and may make you fill out
another affidivit but stay in their face and you should get a title application
dont mention a yamaha frame or custom built some states require receipts for all the parts (
Engine, Trans, front end etc... when they believe a chop has occurred)
and for good measure I would get the original ownerws name and number and deal with him since he is the legal owner.
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then you have some leverage to hold the new title over his head till he gets you the right title for new bike or gives your old bike back
But do it quick though before he registers it
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Ramtough,
I am really liking your idea about the bill of sale/police inspection. For the police inspection, do they just look over the bike and verify that the bikes VIN matches the bill of sale? I would never mention a Yamaha frame, especially since it does not have one. The bike seems all original except the motor. PA is so strict about this stuff, I have a feeling I couldnt accomplish this... But I could be wrong
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HeartOfSwords wrote: Thanks for all these different ideas guys! Honestly I dont want my old bike back... So far I contacted him today and he seems just as adamant as I am to get the correct title in my hands and have this done and over with. I fell in love with the bike riding it home and will do whatever I have to, to keep it.
Ramtough,
I am really liking your idea about the bill of sale/police inspection. For the police inspection, do they just look over the bike and verify that the bikes VIN matches the bill of sale? I would never mention a Yamaha frame, especially since it does not have one. The bike seems all original except the motor. PA is so strict about this stuff, I have a feeling I couldnt accomplish this... But I could be wrong
Yeah basically they come out fill out a form (VIN YR Etc..) check it with the stolen vehicle database Cost me 5.00
Then I took that with the bill of sale to the license branch. I had to get the manager involved because it was an out of the box situation and most government employees just want to say "no"
the manager started out with "no" but I was addiment on if she couldnt do it to call the the main office in INDY, and she eventually told the girl to process it. if you are dealing with a DMV you may have to tell them to call the main office or if its a courthouse as it is here in KY you have them call the state capital
If you happen to get a helpful person it will go without a hitch. just make sure your bill of sale doesnt value it more than 5000.00 the lower the better. (The lady at the main office told me the 5000.00 limit was to deter chop shops and the ever growing industry of frame swapping on stolen merchandise. nobody wants to steal a motorcycle and do all that work for less than 5 grand lol
Mine was valued at 300.00 so made it a pretty silly argument for them to withhold a title on a 300.00 motorcycle lol
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Thats what led me to talking to the main guy (girl) I filed the paperwork to get the info
and eventually got the head of the DMV explaining since the feds wont let them give you other peoples information anymore without a court order That they have no choice but to issue titles based on bill of sale and a clean police report.
if over 5000.00 then it becomes an issue for the courts.
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ramtough_63 wrote:
HeartOfSwords wrote: Thanks for all these different ideas guys! Honestly I dont want my old bike back... So far I contacted him today and he seems just as adamant as I am to get the correct title in my hands and have this done and over with. I fell in love with the bike riding it home and will do whatever I have to, to keep it.
Ramtough,
I am really liking your idea about the bill of sale/police inspection. For the police inspection, do they just look over the bike and verify that the bikes VIN matches the bill of sale? I would never mention a Yamaha frame, especially since it does not have one. The bike seems all original except the motor. PA is so strict about this stuff, I have a feeling I couldnt accomplish this... But I could be wrong
Yeah basically they come out fill out a form (VIN YR Etc..) check it with the stolen vehicle database Cost me 5.00
Then I took that with the bill of sale to the license branch. I had to get the manager involved because it was an out of the box situation and most government employees just want to say "no"
the manager started out with "no" but I was addiment on if she couldnt do it to call the the main office in INDY, and she eventually told the girl to process it. if you are dealing with a DMV you may have to tell them to call the main office or if its a courthouse as it is here in KY you have them call the state capital
If you happen to get a helpful person it will go without a hitch. just make sure your bill of sale doesnt value it more than 5000.00 the lower the better. (The lady at the main office told me the 5000.00 limit was to deter chop shops and the ever growing industry of frame swapping on stolen merchandise. nobody wants to steal a motorcycle and do all that work for less than 5 grand lol
Mine was valued at 300.00 so made it a pretty silly argument for them to withhold a title on a 300.00 motorcycle lol
Great info! I will have to check into that. I was also thinking about the approach that I read you can put a mechanics or storage lein on a vehicle if its in your possession for more than 60 days. Then the registered owner is contacted and required to respond and pay storage fees for its return, so if there is no response or they refuse to pay then the vehicle is awarded to you. I was also thinking abandoned vehicle title but that seems to be a pain.
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HeartOfSwords wrote:
ramtough_63 wrote:
HeartOfSwords wrote: Thanks for all these different ideas guys! Honestly I dont want my old bike back... So far I contacted him today and he seems just as adamant as I am to get the correct title in my hands and have this done and over with. I fell in love with the bike riding it home and will do whatever I have to, to keep it.
Ramtough,
I am really liking your idea about the bill of sale/police inspection. For the police inspection, do they just look over the bike and verify that the bikes VIN matches the bill of sale? I would never mention a Yamaha frame, especially since it does not have one. The bike seems all original except the motor. PA is so strict about this stuff, I have a feeling I couldnt accomplish this... But I could be wrong
Yeah basically they come out fill out a form (VIN YR Etc..) check it with the stolen vehicle database Cost me 5.00
Then I took that with the bill of sale to the license branch. I had to get the manager involved because it was an out of the box situation and most government employees just want to say "no"
the manager started out with "no" but I was addiment on if she couldnt do it to call the the main office in INDY, and she eventually told the girl to process it. if you are dealing with a DMV you may have to tell them to call the main office or if its a courthouse as it is here in KY you have them call the state capital
If you happen to get a helpful person it will go without a hitch. just make sure your bill of sale doesnt value it more than 5000.00 the lower the better. (The lady at the main office told me the 5000.00 limit was to deter chop shops and the ever growing industry of frame swapping on stolen merchandise. nobody wants to steal a motorcycle and do all that work for less than 5 grand lol
Mine was valued at 300.00 so made it a pretty silly argument for them to withhold a title on a 300.00 motorcycle lol
Great info! I will have to check into that. I was also thinking about the approach that I read you can put a mechanics or storage lein on a vehicle if its in your possession for more than 60 days. Then the registered owner is contacted and required to respond and pay storage fees for its return, so if there is no response or they refuse to pay then the vehicle is awarded to you. I was also thinking abandoned vehicle title but that seems to be a pain.
That is basically an old wives tale in most states without a signed work order or some sort of agreement from said person listing work to be performed and staorge fee disclosure no court will give you the lein.
But I am sure there are other ways via the court system. I had a buddy buy a harley from a sherrifs
sale with all of the propper paperwork he still had to have a court order to license it. it was only like 35.00 filing fee but took 6 weeks to do.
What state are you In?
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then its just a matter of the affidavit and a police report. if he wont go to the DMV with you. (and as long as it was titled in his name)
Where the problems come in with titles these day is the child support laws have allowed the courts to
put leins on vehicles and they hold interest in the vehicle until the child support arrearage has been settled.
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