'77 vs '78 kz1000. Differences?

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14 Feb 2011 15:17 #430666 by Galactica
'77 vs '78 kz1000. Differences? was created by Galactica
I've come across a 78 Kz1000 (mfd 08 77). It's sitting in a carport rusting away in Vancouver BC. It's missing some bits and pieces. It's a Canadian bike 18000 kms.
-missing signals
-missing mirrors
-missing grab rail
-non stock handle bars
-rusted 4 into 1 exhaust
-could be original tires, or at least old style
-leaky forks
Other than that it looks complete. Without even talking to the guy, it's likely that the motor and trans are good.

Tank and side covers are royal blue.

I only looked at it briefly and noticed some differences from my 77 Kz 1000.
-different master brake
-different seat (squarish, and slightly stepped)
-different head lamp bucket

Looks like it hasn't run in at least several years.

I would like the to request the benefit of your knowledge.
-What colours did Kz 1000's come in, in 1978?
-What are the differences between '77s and '78s
-What's it worth? Even just to part out?
-Is it worth the effort to part out? I had a hard time even giving away parts from a '77 Kz 650

Thanks in advance,
Ross

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76 KZ900

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14 Feb 2011 15:23 #430668 by PLUMMEN
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ive seen red and green 78s,forks are reversed from 77.
other than that basically same bike as 77 in my book.
theres little odds and ends that are differant,but im not that picky. :laugh:
$500-$1,000 depending on how bad you want it B)

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14 Feb 2011 15:32 #430670 by trianglelaguna
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it is super hard to guess without pics...@ Z1-ent they have pictures and descriptions of the years and changes ....

500 if really outside and rusty is fair...

pics will help...it may be a diamond in the rough,.,,or just rough

500 dollar bikes take 2000.00 to rebuild ...

2000.00 dollar bikes cost 500.00 to finish...:woohoo: :woohoo:

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2007 FZ1000
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14 Feb 2011 15:38 - 14 Feb 2011 16:40 #430674 by Galactica
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Ya, I'm thinkin' $500. I really don't need it very badly. But is it worth trying to part out on Craigslist or E-bay? I've never sold anything on E-bay.

Plus, I'd have to hide it somewhere. My wife thinks I have two too many already.

Ross

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14 Feb 2011 16:42 #430692 by Galactica
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Did the '78 Kz1000 come stock in a sky blue or royal blue?

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14 Feb 2011 16:58 #430695 by trianglelaguna
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never seen one...black and red...green.....few white special america edition .....blue for Z-1r...

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14 Feb 2011 17:44 #430701 by Galactica
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Ya, I was just thinking, there weren't any stripes on it, so it's probably been repainted.

If the tank is in good condition, what's it worth?

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14 Feb 2011 17:54 #430705 by Gman
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'78 KZ1000-A2 fuel tanks have a vacuum petcock that bolts to the tank with 2 bolts. Can't think of anything else that hasn't already been mentioned.

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14 Feb 2011 19:13 - 14 Feb 2011 19:14 #430736 by Patton
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Internal carb differences, guessing thanks to EPA regs ---

Carbs VM26SS (with bottom located pilot mixture adjustment screws)

1977 KZ1000-A1:
MainJet 107.5R; NeedleJet O-6; JetNeedle 5CN8-3; PilotJet 17.5; PilotScrew 1¼ ± ⅛ open

1978 KZ1000-A2:
MainJet 105R; NeedleJet O-5/2; JetNeedle 5DL31-3; PilotJet 15; PilotScrew 1.0 ± ⅛ open

Good Fortune! :)

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14 Feb 2011 20:18 #430758 by RonKZ650
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Main differences already mentioned, mostly front forks, brakes. Seat and headlight setup was the same, I think 1977 by memory came in maroon or a goofy shade of blue. Not the exact kawasaki names:) 1978 were red or green, then in late 1978 they had the black A2A late model. Carb tuning different for EPA compliance. There was not much difference in those 2 years.

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14 Feb 2011 21:42 #430770 by Galactica
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Patton wrote:

Internal carb differences, guessing thanks to EPA regs ---

Carbs VM26SS (with bottom located pilot mixture adjustment screws)

1977 KZ1000-A1:
MainJet 107.5R; NeedleJet O-6; JetNeedle 5CN8-3; PilotJet 17.5; PilotScrew 1¼ ± ⅛ open

1978 KZ1000-A2:
MainJet 105R; NeedleJet O-5/2; JetNeedle 5DL31-3; PilotJet 15; PilotScrew 1.0 ± ⅛ open

Good Fortune! :)



Thanks for the info. Very interesting. This being a Canadian bike, I'd like to see if it is the same as an American one.

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