HollywoodMX's Drouin Supercharged 77 KZ1000!!

Hey, nice Project!! I'll be following along with interest!

I believe the zx6r rear wheel is 1/2" narrower than the zx10r. At least, the '04 -'05 one's are. It made it a little easier to get the chain inside the frame and past the wheel/tire. You can still use a 180mm tire.

We used a zx6r rear wheel and a whole zx10r front end on my KZ.

les holt wrote: Not sure on the wheels of the 10 and 6 being different but I would bet that the 10's are wider. The 14's are heavy compared to the others by quite a bit. On the forks, Suzuki's are pretty consistent on fork size and length but Kaw's are all over the place. I like the newer stuff myself but they don't lend themselves to gullwinged trees well, you have to drop the lower tree as well. The way I see it is get a whole front to match the wheel your wanting. It saves on parts selection and debugging although I put 04 wheels on my bike that has 09 forks and an arm with spacers built to take an 09 wheel and rotor spacing was dead on, had to make spacers for the front wheel but that isn't uncommon. The rear was a dead bolt in. The only real suggestion I have is to buy a complete later model setup forks with the brakes, master cylinder and axle. I know the money is higher but, you get parts that aren't wore out, parts that match and most of the time you save money over the total package. I just worked a deal on new zx14 forks with calipers and master for fair money so they are out there, just use a plan and follow it, it will save you tons of money in the long haul.

Les

Thanks Les. Yes the zx14 are substantially heavier wheels than the zx10s. I was reading a thread where its a common swap to zx10 wheels for zx14'ers to get more performance, they even make swap kits.

I checked, the rears are different between the zx6 vs zx10; 06 zx6 is 5.5 inches wide and 25mm axle, zx10 is 6.0 inches wide and takes a 20mm axle. Price of a setup will dictate but I will try for the zx6 to maintain closer to the original tire so it doesn't go too fighter style.

Drooz wrote: Hey, nice Project!! I'll be following along with interest!

I believe the zx6r rear wheel is 1/2" narrower than the zx10r. At least, the '04 -'05 one's are. It made it a little easier to get the chain inside the frame and past the wheel/tire. You can still use a 180mm tire.

We used a zx6r rear wheel and a whole zx10r front end on my KZ.

Ok good to know. Do you have pics of your bike in thread somewhere?

Nice bike Hollywood!

Very innovative head work.
You might want to install some SS braided brake lines, and it appears that your rear rotor has a decent size groove worn into it... I'm wondering how your brake pads are also. The stock Z1 KZ brakes are OK at best... let alone having a blower thrown into the equation :laugh: . A set of super bike bars or clip-ons would really inspire confidence also.

Someone spent alot of time and resources into your bike... I like the direction your headed with a super bike / cafe influence.

It almost looks like your pipe has been ceramic coated (hard to tell from a pic though). The new oil coolers available are much larger and make a noticeable improvement over the older ones.

Can you post more pics of your swingarm? I've never seen a Calfab with that type of extruded alum. tubing before... maybe it's a one off?

Regards, Doug

Zedone wrote: Can you post more pics of your swingarm? I've never seen a Calfab with that type of extruded alum. tubing before... maybe it's a one off?

The swingarm on the supercharged bike just looks like a stock arm with an extra tube brace welded underneath and then painted silver.

Later, Doug

a custom fabbed aluminum belt cover with holes and lexan over each pulley would be cool.

leon

Sweet. How did you know how to delete the relays? When I did this one the TR-1 I used the wiring diagram with a forum post of instructions, more or less.

You only need a relay if you are switching a current that is more than the switch gear can handle
e.g starter motor, twin headlights etc.

As for the choice of wheels discussion the widest a std Zed frame will take whilst keeping the wheel true central is a 5.5 inch rim e.g, zx636,Z750,zx7r,zx9 etc .

With a 5/8 offset sprocket the measurement from swingarm spindle center (chassis/wheel center line) to the inside face of the sprocket is 101mm which usually equates to approx 8mm off the rear wheels sprocket carrier to align the chain.

A zx10r rear is 6 inch and won't fit unless it's offset which i think is bad practice.
If you want better/quicker handling rather than pose value go for a 170 rear tyre.
The ideal set up is 5/8 offset front with 19teeth, 530 pitch to get max clearance between the chain,frame and swingarm.
The original zeds final gearing is 2.2 to 1.
To compensate for the smaller 17" rim use 1.92 to 1 for the closest equivalent.

StreetfighterKz wrote:

Zedone wrote: Can you post more pics of your swingarm? I've never seen a Calfab with that type of extruded alum. tubing before... maybe it's a one off?

The swingarm on the supercharged bike just looks like a stock arm with an extra tube brace welded underneath and then painted silver.

Later, Doug

Thats exactly what it is

Hollywoodmx wrote:

Drooz wrote: Hey, nice Project!! I'll be following along with interest!

I believe the zx6r rear wheel is 1/2" narrower than the zx10r. At least, the '04 -'05 one's are. It made it a little easier to get the chain inside the frame and past the wheel/tire. You can still use a 180mm tire.

We used a zx6r rear wheel and a whole zx10r front end on my KZ.

Ok good to know. Do you have pics of your bike in thread somewhere?

Sure, I've got a few pics.

















There are a few others if you need some detail, but that's pretty well it. I also run a 5/8" offset sprocket (see pic) and an idler wheel to keep the chain off the swingarm bottom brace. There is a mylar strip on the top of the swingarm (see pic), and it's needed!!

Hope that helps some.

Zedone wrote: Nice bike Hollywood!

Very innovative head work.
You might want to install some SS braided brake lines, and it appears that your rear rotor has a decent size groove worn into it... I'm wondering how your brake pads are also. The stock Z1 KZ brakes are OK at best... let alone having a blower thrown into the equation :laugh: . A set of super bike bars or clip-ons would really inspire confidence also.

Someone spent alot of time and resources into your bike... I like the direction your headed with a super bike / cafe influence.

It almost looks like your pipe has been ceramic coated (hard to tell from a pic though). The new oil coolers available are much larger and make a noticeable improvement over the older ones.

Can you post more pics of your swingarm? I've never seen a Calfab with that type of extruded alum. tubing before... maybe it's a one off?

Regards, Doug

Ya he did, he spent lots of money on the bike. Back in 84 I think, he said the supercharger with all the "required" pieces cost him $3500! Pretty crazy. Engine parts were in the thousands. Judging by his receipts be blew the motor in the 90s once, there was another list of engine parts from the 80s I didn't list, thus why its 1045 now.PS. Anyone know what the snowflake does?? Yup it is ceramic coated there is a receipt for it. I will be painting it black. Sure I will add pics.

StreetfighterKz wrote:

Zedone wrote: Can you post more pics of your swingarm? I've never seen a Calfab with that type of extruded alum. tubing before... maybe it's a one off?

The swingarm on the supercharged bike just looks like a stock arm with an extra tube brace welded underneath and then painted silver.

Later, Doug

It was powder coated silver. I think he may have sent it to Calfab to re-enfornce as there is calfab docs in the folder.

531blackbanshee wrote: a custom fabbed aluminum belt cover with holes and lexan over each pulley would be cool.

leon

Ya I think so too. My buddy is going to cut the opening with a cnc.

zed1015 wrote:

Sweet. How did you know how to delete the relays? When I did this one the TR-1 I used the wiring diagram with a forum post of instructions, more or less.

You only need a relay if you are switching a current that is more than the switch gear can handle
e.g starter motor, twin headlights etc.

As for the choice of wheels discussion the widest a std Zed frame will take whilst keeping the wheel true central is a 5.5 inch rim e.g, zx636,Z750,zx7r,zx9 etc .

With a 5/8 offset sprocket the measurement from swingarm spindle center (chassis/wheel center line) to the inside face of the sprocket is 101mm which usually equates to approx 8mm off the rear wheels sprocket carrier to align the chain.

A zx10r rear is 6 inch and won't fit unless it's offset which i think is bad practice.
If you want better/quicker handling rather than pose value go for a 170 rear tyre.
The ideal set up is 5/8 offset front with 19teeth, 530 pitch to get max clearance between the chain,frame and swingarm.
The original zeds final gearing is 2.2 to 1.
To compensate for the smaller 17" rim use 1.92 to 1 for the closest equivalent.

On the Yamaha 2 out of 4 realys were for safety things that I deleted, thats why I was asking.

Hey that's really helpful info on the wheels and the final drive. I would prefer the 5.5 anyways.

But I did fall in love with these wheels but I would get them powdered gold; Aprilia RSV wheels. I was able to find a complete set of forks, breaks, trips, etc. But I'm not sure if that's venturing into no mans land of endless fab work..

Drooz wrote:

Hollywoodmx wrote:

Drooz wrote: Hey, nice Project!! I'll be following along with interest!

I believe the zx6r rear wheel is 1/2" narrower than the zx10r. At least, the '04 -'05 one's are. It made it a little easier to get the chain inside the frame and past the wheel/tire. You can still use a 180mm tire.

We used a zx6r rear wheel and a whole zx10r front end on my KZ.

Ok good to know. Do you have pics of your bike in thread somewhere?

Sure, I've got a few pics.

There are a few others if you need some detail, but that's pretty well it. I also run a 5/8" offset sprocket (see pic) and an idler wheel to keep the chain off the swingarm bottom brace. There is a mylar strip on the top of the swingarm (see pic), and it's needed!!

Hope that helps some.

Sweet ride man. I like the shocks, I mean $HOCK$..hehe. What swing arm is that, gsxr?

The snowflake is the lock-up clutch mechanism that is bolted to the clutch pressure plate.

Hollywoodmx wrote:

Zedone wrote: What swing arm is that, gsxr?

JMC, England.

Nice swing arm. Difficult folks to deal with. :blink:

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