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13 Nov 2011 11:07 #488288 by Boostable
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Looking real nice, great work on the tail piece.

~Jack

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14 Nov 2011 13:08 #488440 by mark1122
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531blackbanshee wrote: i do not see a problem with using it.

as long as it won't be a constant nagging in the back of your head.

i don't think that you would ever have a problem with it tho.

your bike looks killer with that tail piece on it.real nice.

leon


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the tail turned out great.
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15 Nov 2011 00:41 #488528 by DoctoRot
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Finally got my crank back from Falicon on Friday, so now I have no excuse to not start rebuilding the engine. Its a bit intimidating, because i have never done anything like this, but you gotta start somewhere.

Got the crank back in the case also installed the new HD main bearing studs and got the trans back in there too. I have to wait for the oil pump o ring which i forgot to order to come before i can make anymore progress here.

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15 Nov 2011 11:16 #488575 by 531blackbanshee
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follow the manual and take it slow and double check.

you will be fine.

ask questions if you need to we will help.

why isn't the chain under the main cap? :unsure:

or maybe it si and you jsut have it folded back over :S .

it's trippin me out :silly: .

keep us posted .

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30 Nov 2011 00:23 - 30 Nov 2011 02:43 #490771 by DoctoRot
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531blackbanshee wrote: follow the manual and take it slow and double check.

you will be fine.

ask questions if you need to we will help.

why isn't the chain under the main cap? :unsure:

or maybe it si and you jsut have it folded back over :S .

it's trippin me out :silly: .

keep us posted .

leon


Yeah its under the cap i just have it folded over. thanks for looking out though.

I have been mulling over a new problem for the last 2 weeks. Enter exhibit A:
The tailpiece I made does not do the original line of this bike justice. It looks like a damn game of pick up sticks. This is because when i was shaping the plug i molded it to the frame for strength and ease of mounting. However the frame does not line up with the tank. This didn't matter in its stock for because the huge stock seat hid the frame and didn't follow its lines. I have been tinkering with different ways of fixing this problem, mostly by trying to adjust the angle and height of the tail in various ways. I havent been able to fix the problem visually.

So heres the plan;

I'm going to remake the tailpiece. You may think I'm anal, a perfectionist, tell me its not that bad, that I should just use it, but this is really going to bug the crap outta me :pinch: The tail is such a huge part of the bike visually, that I feel it needs to be better.

I also want to modify a new upper frame to help with the lines. here is a p-shop mock-up
So when the new seat it put on there the lines flow much nicer. The bottom of the tank aligns with the bottom of the tail all the way back, and the angle on the top of the tail is pretty close to the angle coming off the back of the tank. Much more aesthetically pleasing.

My buddy will be doing all the welding, for safetys sake. The shock mount plate will be extended , same with the tube it attaches to, the new rails will sit about a half inch higher in the front and an inch higher in the back. I will add bracing.

My main concern it that it will still be safe with the frame mods. I am open to opinions and advice (as long as they aren't for keeping the old tail.)
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30 Nov 2011 05:24 #490801 by Zedone
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You could have your seat foam thicker at the rear of the pan and taper it thinner towards the front of the pan, this would give you an option to manipulate the final build lines. That pan you made looks really good!

Doug

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02 Dec 2011 07:56 - 02 Dec 2011 08:16 #491070 by DoctoRot
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Zedone wrote: You could have your seat foam thicker at the rear of the pan and taper it thinner towards the front of the pan, this would give you an option to manipulate the final build lines. That pan you made looks really good!

Doug

Yeah I thought about compensating with the seat foam, but it would just look weird. I even cut up some extruded foam i had to try and model it. Wasn't cutting it. Im not going to worry about that for a while.

I have a new problem. Finally got some time to work on the engine, put the cases together, got the bolts that go around the crank in just fine. Went to tighten the 6mm bolts that go around the perimeter of the crank, and had the first one break off in the case, tried the second one and it broke too, but i was able to get it out with vice grips.


What the hell? The manual said to tighten to 78-95 ft lbs. that seemed high to me, is this a misprint? or are the bolts just crap? Its not the torque wrench either, I borrowed a very nice craftsman one that was just rebuilt.

Any solutions on how to get this bolt out? I have tried easy-outs before and never had them work.

A friend of mine told me that I was going to do everything twice on this bike. Its turning out to be truer and truer.

I found some replacement bolts online, does it matter if it is fully threaded on the 93mm bolts?
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02 Dec 2011 08:18 #491071 by Mcdroid
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Your manual says 'inch lbs' NOT 'foot lbs' ;)

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02 Dec 2011 09:52 #491076 by Mookachacka
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Mcdroid wrote: Your manual says 'inch lbs' NOT 'foot lbs' ;)


Doh! Bummer :(

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02 Dec 2011 10:28 - 13 Feb 2012 17:42 #491080 by KZ250LTD
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02 Dec 2011 11:37 - 02 Dec 2011 11:41 #491089 by tachrev
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Looks like they are properly torqued, now just back them off a 1/4 turn.

Bike is looking really good, btw!

It looks like you have a little bit sticking out there, you could try to tap it back out with a small punch. I've heard something about using left hand drill bits or something, too?

I'd be really carefully doing anything near the case surface there, though. Take it slow.

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02 Dec 2011 16:57 - 13 Feb 2012 17:42 #491135 by KZ250LTD
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