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13 Apr 2008 23:52 #206294
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1978 KZ650 D1 ~ Carb jetting: 107.5 & 20 & 4th groove with pods and 4-1 Exhaust
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If you are willing to haul it to lancaster, and pick up a dirtbike for me on the way (I'll pay for the dirtbike). If it is anything like the 650, check your fuses, and you may have a main fuse/strap to check as well. Make sure the run/kill switch is on as on the 650 that switch provides the juice to the coils. With a test light you can check the coils supply by grounding one end and touching the other to the yellow/red wire with the key and switch on. If there is juice to the coils then pull the plugs, lay them on the engine block and turn the bike over to check for spark.
If juice to coils, but no spark, then check your plug wires, then your coils. Also, check the black and green wires from your points (if your bike has inductive ignition you will need to check that as well.
If all of that checks out, you may still have fried something else as the bike should run without the generator, just that your battery will eventually drain to nothing.
If the coils have no power, I would start tracing back up the line and check if the clutch switch is working, if there is a neutral lockout switch, if power is making it to the kill switch, etc.
To start your bike you should only need the battery, coils, points/inductive pickup, spark plugs, spark plug wires, and the mess of wires connecting through various switches.
I once fried a regulator/rectifier on a dirtbike because I welded without disconnecting everything. The bike still ran, but I didn't have power for lights (no battery on that bike) until I replaced the rectifier. Good luck.
If juice to coils, but no spark, then check your plug wires, then your coils. Also, check the black and green wires from your points (if your bike has inductive ignition you will need to check that as well.
If all of that checks out, you may still have fried something else as the bike should run without the generator, just that your battery will eventually drain to nothing.
If the coils have no power, I would start tracing back up the line and check if the clutch switch is working, if there is a neutral lockout switch, if power is making it to the kill switch, etc.
To start your bike you should only need the battery, coils, points/inductive pickup, spark plugs, spark plug wires, and the mess of wires connecting through various switches.
I once fried a regulator/rectifier on a dirtbike because I welded without disconnecting everything. The bike still ran, but I didn't have power for lights (no battery on that bike) until I replaced the rectifier. Good luck.
1978 KZ650 D1 ~ Carb jetting: 107.5 & 20 & 4th groove with pods and 4-1 Exhaust
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14 Apr 2008 20:49 - 15 Apr 2008 20:57 #206553
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ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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landcaster down by LA??
my pickup barely makes it to work. wish I could bring it down there.. thanks for the offer..
my pickup barely makes it to work. wish I could bring it down there.. thanks for the offer..
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15 Apr 2008 12:57 #206694
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78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles
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Does the bike's wiring diagram show anything such as a clutch switch or kickstand switch that would be open, and not letting the coils get juice?
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15 Apr 2008 20:53 #206804
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ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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A friend at work mentioned the kickstand switch but I totally spaced about there possibly being a clutch safety switch.good call;)
also my friend said that his headlight doesn't come on till the bike is runnibg.. gotta check that out too.. thanks everyone for the assist...you rock:woohoo:
also my friend said that his headlight doesn't come on till the bike is runnibg.. gotta check that out too.. thanks everyone for the assist...you rock:woohoo:
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15 Apr 2008 21:21 #206807
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the headlight will turn on with motor off. its one of the switches on the right control. mine works while engine off.
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16 Apr 2008 23:10 #207069
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1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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okc_kent had it dead on.the clutch safety was not connected and there was a bad connection on the ground. fixed all and fiddled with the carbs and hot damn the beast lives :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
I'M SOOOOO PUMPED.
HOPE TO GET IT DIALED IN BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY.
THE HEADLIGHT NON-OP ISSUE WAS DUE TO FAULTY GROUND..
I'M SOOOOO PUMPED.
HOPE TO GET IT DIALED IN BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY.
THE HEADLIGHT NON-OP ISSUE WAS DUE TO FAULTY GROUND..
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01 May 2008 21:05 #210583
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1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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got it all together only issues are the carbs are not right because I'm using pods insted of the airbox. got a thing on the carbs forum about running a restricter to set the cfm rateing back to the box specs.
the other thing is that the head gasket leaks so am changing that tomorrow.
will post pix tomorrow. may 2nd my birthday and the day I was shooting for to be the completion day.
wow I think I may have pulled it off.:woohoo:
the other thing is that the head gasket leaks so am changing that tomorrow.
will post pix tomorrow. may 2nd my birthday and the day I was shooting for to be the completion day.
wow I think I may have pulled it off.:woohoo:
ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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02 May 2008 23:00 - 04 May 2008 11:01 #210826
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1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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all is to the rideable point except for an oil leak on the valve cover.thats saturday.. want to ride it to work tuesday ..
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04 May 2008 20:49 #211192
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close but no cigar. fixed the oil leaks on the head but the float
on the carb leaks non stop, got just enough $$ left to get
wiredfeorge to build me a new pair. did go for a ride and love
the crap outta this bike.
the only other problem I discovered on the shake down cruise is
when I apply the rear break it feels like the rear is moving to
the right. crabbing is the avaition term , can't think of another
way to put it. the bolts for the rear axle are secure. something
ain't right.. any ideas????:huh:
anyway this is it aso far. still need a right side cover.
I have 2 air boxes to trade..
on the carb leaks non stop, got just enough $$ left to get
wiredfeorge to build me a new pair. did go for a ride and love
the crap outta this bike.
the only other problem I discovered on the shake down cruise is
when I apply the rear break it feels like the rear is moving to
the right. crabbing is the avaition term , can't think of another
way to put it. the bolts for the rear axle are secure. something
ain't right.. any ideas????:huh:
anyway this is it aso far. still need a right side cover.
I have 2 air boxes to trade..
ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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04 May 2008 22:40 - 07 Feb 2013 03:18 #211217
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08 May 2008 14:32 #212089
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1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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the brace was loose. no more crab.
wired george gave me a fair price on the carbs but he's knee deep in work,its his season, and his turnaround time is 6-8 weeks. I can't wait that long..
so am gonna try to find someone local.I'm a little gun shy since 2 other people messed it up.
gonna build my exhaust while dealing with the carb..
for a free bike this thing is killing me$$$$$$$$$$:S
gonna re do the seat too. I really don't like the way it turned out.maybe a seat off of a kz440..
anyone ever use these type of baffels?? I'm cool with loud but not ticket loud...
wired george gave me a fair price on the carbs but he's knee deep in work,its his season, and his turnaround time is 6-8 weeks. I can't wait that long..
so am gonna try to find someone local.I'm a little gun shy since 2 other people messed it up.
gonna build my exhaust while dealing with the carb..
for a free bike this thing is killing me$$$$$$$$$$:S
gonna re do the seat too. I really don't like the way it turned out.maybe a seat off of a kz440..
anyone ever use these type of baffels?? I'm cool with loud but not ticket loud...
ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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10 May 2008 23:08 #212702
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1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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got a local mechanic that is going to teach me to rebuild my carb next weekend. #140 mains and #42.5 pilots..
made my collectors for my exhaust pipe and cut the old megaphone one off.
dude has a cool trick for figuring the length your pipes need to be.start your bike and run it for a bit then make a mark starting at the end and drawing a line to the front with a crayon. when it starts to melt thats the length your pipes need to be.. simplicity ..
made my collectors for my exhaust pipe and cut the old megaphone one off.
dude has a cool trick for figuring the length your pipes need to be.start your bike and run it for a bit then make a mark starting at the end and drawing a line to the front with a crayon. when it starts to melt thats the length your pipes need to be.. simplicity ..
ENJOY LIFE,, THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL.
1991 KZ1000P FROM COPPER TO CHOPPER. MY BADASS BOBBER
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