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09 Mar 2006 11:13 #29622 by supa phatty J
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I know this has been covered before and I have used the search (and yes I will go back and RE-read threads, too).

I decided to post here, even though I no longer have the KZ, because it seems rattle can painting is common with a group of people that own older bikes. :)

Anyway, I want to paint my 2000 SV650. It has rash on the tail from a lowside, so I want to repaint over it. (It will hurt some to lose that badge of honor though...)

I want the plastics to be a flat or matte black. First off, what is the difference between flat and matte paints? What would you suggest I spray for this? Should I just go with a black primer (suggestions on brand)?

I never painted anything, nor have I ever used spray paints, so please be easy... ;)

The tank would be the last thing I want to do (if I do it), and it will be an orange or yellow...I think. If you'd like to input an early suggestion on that, feel free. :)

Thanks!!!

Edit: ohhh looks like all the board settings have been reset since I was last here...

Post edited by: supa phatty J, at: 2006/03/09 14:14

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11 Mar 2006 00:05 #30041 by dutchz
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Flat black is tricky... You'll see fingerprints and the likes anytime anything or anyone (including you, gas, motoroil and W40) touches the bike. I really like the Rustoleom ToughGuard Semi Flat which gives you a low, hot-rod like sheen and looks WAY better than all flat black. I used their grey primer, which is fine.

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11 Mar 2006 22:58 #30252 by dutchz
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Sorry, that would be KRYLON ToughGuard semi flat, not rustoleum.

1974 Kawasaki Z1
Stock front hub and rear axle.

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13 Mar 2006 13:41 #30719 by MattBlack
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Yeah I agree, a lot of people say "flat black" but it's rare that flat black is really what you use. Unless you're realy keepign it on the cheap. ;)

Matte Black and Satin black is what you want to use. It bacially low-luster, but still has a slight sheen to it and resists scuffs and prints etc, as was mentioned.

You can always use a flat black though if you are goign to coat it after with a matte clear. The clear will help protect it againt crap as well.

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13 Mar 2006 14:42 #30738 by Mark Wing
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Flat will be a headache. Matte or semi= gloss black will be more forgiving.
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77 KZ650 C1 with ZX7 forks, GPZ mono rear, wider 18 police wheels and Yoshimura motor.

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13 Mar 2006 15:07 #30748 by btchalice
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i used duplicolor high temp engine paint with ceramic if the pic posts this is what it looks like

Post edited by: btchalice, at: 2006/03/13 18:11

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I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.
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14 Mar 2006 20:44 #31218 by supa phatty J
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If I use a black primer, can I go straight to a matte clear on top of that? Or should I put some satin/matte paint on top of the primer first?

Dutchz, did you put any clear over your semi-flat paint?

btchalice, that paint looks like it could be a good candidate for when I do my exhaust. The exhaust is aluminum. Would I need to sand it down before, or just clean and spray?

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15 Mar 2006 04:45 #31288 by btchalice
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on aluminum i would sand it smooth and kill any shiny spots to make sure it sticks

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15 Mar 2006 05:36 #31292 by cratgo
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don't know if anybody else has had this problem, but, i had to buy some duplicolor adhesion promoter for the plastics because the paint just wanted to bead up in some spots even after sanding and scuffing, the stuff worked though

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15 Mar 2006 10:46 #31357 by ran429
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btchalice wrote:

on aluminum i would sand it smooth and kill any shiny spots to make sure it sticks


On aluminum, always spend the money for ACID etching primer. Paint wont just Stick magically to aluminum for some reason.:whistle:

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