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Rear brake calipper

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04 Aug 2021 12:55 #853153 by gordone
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I have a problem that rear brake calipper  , not release fully…

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1. verify the rear wheel spin freely before start driving.

2. after a while I feel it hang more and more.

3. stops the wheel it look at the calipper is super hoot….

4. cool it down with water and the brake release.

no more issue on the same trip…
next time same issue….

One time I feel it was hanging more and more I had bad time and was pushing brake many times, and suddnley it was releasing…


These is happens without using the rear brake….


any ideas?


thank you :)

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04 Aug 2021 15:01 #853160 by hardrockminer
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You may not have good fluid flow through the holes in your master cylinder.  You will have to flush the system and ensure the holes are clean.

The caliper piston slides over a seal on the inside of the cylinder.  If dirt builds up behind the seal (in the groove where it fits) the piston will be tight.  To check it you will have to pull the caliper off and remove the piston.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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04 Aug 2021 22:03 - 04 Aug 2021 22:03 #853183 by cb900f
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The equalizing port (the small of the two ports) of your Master Cylinder is plugged.  When the port gets plugged, excess fluid (due to piston retraction and heat expansion) can't flow back into the MC, which causes the pad to drag, which causes even more heat, causing more dragging, causing even more heat ...... until the brakes eventually lock up.  Use a guitar string to clean the port out and flush with new fluid.
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06 Aug 2021 08:11 #853255 by gordone
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Thank you!

everything was 100 cleaned 3 years ago….

will umount master cylinder.

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine

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06 Aug 2021 08:26 #853258 by bluej58
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09 Aug 2021 00:41 #853430 by gordone
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Thank you, will check these also, these can be the case, that the pedal is not fully "back", but how is the pressure building up since I`m not using the brake? vibration from driving?

 

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09 Aug 2021 05:28 - 09 Aug 2021 12:54 #853437 by bluej58
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I had trouble with my back brake building up pressure to where I had to pull over and bleed the caliper to release the pressure,
so I took it to the local (trusted) bike shop and the owner gave it to some kid to fix.
Fresh pads and a master cylinder rebuild later it was still hanging up, so after two or three  trips back to the shop the owner decided to have a look, he started at the foot pedal and then looked at the adjustment bolt and found the problem.
That was 40 years ago and cost a bunch of time and money but was a lesson well learned.

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09 Aug 2021 08:55 #853448 by Mikaw
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I’ve never watched my rear pedal, but I bet on a bumpy road it could get pulled up or down adding a slight amount of pressure each bump. Just a guess. I have to believe as mentioned it’s either the adjustments or the pressure relief port that is blocked. 

 

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11 Aug 2021 13:56 - 11 Aug 2021 13:57 #853598 by gordone
Replied by gordone on topic Rear brake calipper
I will check the reelfe valve.

the strange thing is these typicaly happens after 10 min, and after that I can run for many hours without any issues….

It has never happend twise on the same day trip…. Only in the start of it.

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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11 Aug 2021 20:59 - 11 Aug 2021 21:00 #853623 by woodyvale
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Following this topic.

Having the same problem on my gpz11 uni rear brake.

New master cylinder and rebuild kit. New brake line. Rebuilt caliper with new seals and new piston. Relief valve not blocked.

Starts off fine then brake drags after about 10 mins and seizes solid until it cools down.

Just in the process of stripping it down and rebleeding to see if that makes a difference.
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01 Feb 2022 08:27 #861585 by ifranzani
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probably aligment

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