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26 Feb 2021 18:26 - 26 Feb 2021 18:27 #844162 by Mr. E
Frame vs engine ID was created by Mr. E
Hey guys, I picked up a project today and I'm thinking I may have picked up something special.

1977 kz1000
Frame number KZT00A000265
Engine number KZT00AE000262

What could the reason be for the engine and frame numbers to not match?

How low is considered a low vin ?

1978 kz1105 - the Rooster, 1981 KZ750 Chopper, 1975 KZ400 , 1984 GPZ750
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26 Feb 2021 18:38 #844163 by krazee1
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The frame and engine numbers rarely match, they are usually close. The frame number of your project is very early in Japanese production of the 77 KZ1000, probably the first week, pretty cool! If it was manufactured in Lincoln the VIN would start with a 5.

Mike

Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
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27 Feb 2021 05:38 #844177 by 73z1
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What could the reason be for the engine and frame numbers to not match?
They never match

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How low is considered a low vin ?
#265
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27 Feb 2021 08:25 #844193 by krazee1
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73z1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What could the reason be for the engine and frame numbers to not match?
They never match
anc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How low is considered a low vin ?
#265


From what I've read, some of the 1st Z1s (first 20?) were assembled with the engine and frame numbers intentionally matched. I believe these were for the press release in Japan, so a rare circumstance. Other than that they are randomly assembled, but randomly does not mean a match could "never" happen. (rarely)

Mike

Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)

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27 Feb 2021 09:01 - 27 Feb 2021 09:05 #844197 by hardrockminer
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Press bikes actually had 9000 series serial numbers with engine and frame identical numbers. They were pre-production. The first 100 production bikes had matching numbers. They went to major dealers. After that, a matching number would be a coincidence. I've seen one or two like that. Just guessing but the First Z1A and the last one might have matching numbers. Same for Z1B's. But I've never seen the first Z1A or Z1B.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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28 Feb 2021 06:42 #844231 by ronnieV
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That's an early bike that should be stamped made in japan,like previously stated,if the vin starts with a 5 it was made in USA

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28 Feb 2021 06:49 #844234 by ronnieV
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And the first one being vin#101 that makes your bike very early .

77 ltd1000 80 ltd1000 78kz1000a ,02 red zrx 12r, 94 cb1000 big one ,03 valkyrie (my couch) 65 olds 442

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