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78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery

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13 Feb 2006 17:57 #23634 by beaterbike
78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery was created by beaterbike
Just had my Wiredgeorges rebuilt super-duper carbs installed..they work great - thanks George..

When I went to pick up the bike, my mechanic informed me that the swing arm has a great deal of play in and the bearings are probably shot.

So after checking my Clymer Guide and calling one of OUR KZ vendors - I am appealing to you'all. Anybody have any idea size they are, or maybe a KZ model #, or??

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13 Feb 2006 18:19 #23643 by wireman
Replied by wireman on topic 78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery
have you tried Z1 enterprises?

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13 Feb 2006 18:29 #23648 by steell
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According to buykawasaki.com:

92046-1115 BEARING-NEEDLE,HK2216 4

You might be able to cross reference the HK2216 number (you need 4 of them), 92046-1115 is the Kawasaki part number.

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13 Feb 2006 19:12 #23674 by RetroRiceRocketRider
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steel is right on the Kawi part# (92046-1115), and the bearing manufacturers part# (HK2216) as well.
Although I can't remember exactely who the manufacturer is.
The bearing size is in the manufacturers part# itself - 16MM.

If Jeff at Z1 doesn't have them, whatever you do DON'T buy them from a Kawi dealer!
My local Kawi dealer wanted $12 each for them lil buggers!
I hit up a local bearing supply shop that I've dealt with before when I replaced the ones on my 650, and scored all 4 of them for $24 - half the price the dealer wanted for the EXACT same bearings.

If you can find a well stocked bearing supply shop near you, they should either have them in stock, or be able to fetch them from their main warehouse/supplier.

Good luck. :)

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13 Feb 2006 19:17 #23678 by beaterbike
Replied by beaterbike on topic 78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery
I called jeff today... his Bearing manuf didn't list a bearing, and the Kaw cross ref was questionable.. Where we left it was..I/we would source the part after the swingarm was apart....realy don't want to source when the bike a part.

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13 Feb 2006 19:35 #23691 by RetroRiceRocketRider
Replied by RetroRiceRocketRider on topic 78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery
beaterbike wrote:

I called jeff today... his Bearing manuf didn't list a bearing, and the Kaw cross ref was questionable.. Where we left it was..I/we would source the part after the swingarm was apart....realy don't want to source when the bike a part.


If you aren't able to locate them near you, let me know. I can always get them for you from the shop near me and ship them to you.

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13 Feb 2006 19:38 #23694 by rede4u
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I suspect that the numbers are the sizes of the bearing. 22 mm O/D and 16 mm I/D.

You should be able to cross reference them with any bearing manufacturer. Most if not all of them make metric bearings. SKF are italian and should have a direct cross reference, NTN are Japanese same story.

Check this out
www.newsun-bearings.com/newsun.files/pro12_07.htm

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13 Feb 2006 20:29 #23713 by steell
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I'm just to good :laugh:

According to the cross reference site www.tec.nsk.com/ the numbers you need are:

NTN FJ-2216
SKF FJ-2216

Hmm, same number at both, maybe it's generic, or it could possibly be a NSK number, worth checking out anyway.

I just checked again and that is an NSK number.

Another "Hmmm" the NTN part number is HK2216C apparently.
You can search by bearing type and size at the NTN website.
www.ntnamerica.com/tech_support.htm#

Oh yeah, it is 22mm ID, 28mm OD, 16mm long, AKA 22mm bore size, 28mm D (OD) 16mm d (deep or long). Must ride on a sleeve that fits over the pivot bolt because I am sure the 650 does not have a 22mm swingarm pivot bolt.

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13 Feb 2006 20:51 #23717 by steell
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Bearing Data Sheet
Shell Type

NTN Part Number HK2216C
Weight N/A (lbs) / N/A (kg)


Dimensions Features / Options
Dimension.......Imperial........Metric Description
Bore d .........0.8661 (in).....22.000 (mm)
O.D.D...........1.1024 (in).....28.000 (mm)
Width B or W....0.6299 (in).....16.000 (mm)

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15 Feb 2006 18:44 #24156 by beaterbike
Replied by beaterbike on topic 78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery
Thanks to all:)

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04 May 2006 12:20 #45083 by beaterbike
Replied by beaterbike on topic 78 KZ 650 D1 Swingarm Bearing Mystery
Update...

done.. the bike was in the shop for about a month or sooo..The swingarm caps were unavailable for Kawk/USA and the chuckleheads at the local Kawk dealer had them on order awaitng delivery....agh.

Costs.

Bearings. $85 :unsure:

Labor. $280 :ohmy:

The bike sat so long I'm now having to perform a series of Italian Tune-ups :P to clear things up.

Post edited by: beaterbike, at: 2006/05/04 15:23

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04 May 2006 12:38 #45085 by 77KZ650
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steell wrote:

. Must ride on a sleeve that fits over the pivot bolt because I am sure the 650 does not have a 22mm swingarm pivot bolt.

I think its a 19mm bolt

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