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18 Jan 2006 20:53 #18594 by agawam
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do I have this right ? I have a 78 650sr I have shortened the forks about 2in and installed longer rear shocks left the stock swingarm reducing the angle of the rake and making the bike lenth 78in or about 6in shorter front to rear, will this bike handle better than a stock SR,I have also lowered the center of gravity by custom seat(2.5in cafe style) and superbike bars running 16x130 rear tire and 19x110 front

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18 Jan 2006 20:57 #18595 by Blowntrc5
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agawam wrote:

do I have this right ? I have a 78 650sr I have shortened the forks about 2in and installed longer rear shocks left the stock swingarm reducing the angle of the rake and making the bike lenth 78in or about 6in shorter front to rear, will this bike handle better than a stock SR,I have also lowered the center of gravity by custom seat(2.5in cafe style) and superbike bars running 16x130 rear tire and 19x110 front


Make sure you don't get into neg. trail, as it won't be pritty!!

Doug

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18 Jan 2006 21:09 #18596 by wireman
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dont take too much rake out of the frame or you will have no high speed stability!:S

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18 Jan 2006 21:19 #18597 by agawam
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do you think I would be better off with the shorter rear shocks, with the shorter shocks I have only 3.5in clearance on the header without me on the bike, but I only weigh in at 145,150 after lunch

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18 Jan 2006 21:26 #18598 by wireman
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900/1000 frame strap frame down to solid surface make sure its level 3 tubes under tank get cut gusset under steering head gets sliced downtubes in gusset area get heated as triple tree is pulled back to prevent kinking/cracking make sure steering head is brought back straight and level check from several points weld frame tubes reweld gusset under steering head.that is very basic explanation it is a lot more complicated than just cutting and eyeballing things especially if you want it to go down the road or track safely and straight!if you do not trust your fabrication or welding skills P-LEEEEEEEEASE do not attempt this yourself professional shops do not charge that much,allthough some of the professional jobs ive seen are downright shitty looking!so allways check out their work before you have any serious fabrication done!goodluck,happy wrenching!

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19 Jan 2006 16:30 #18748 by kswilliams333
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what did you mean by:

for a street bike, i wouldn't bother. i would lower the front end with the internal collars, and then drop the tubes in the trees an inch or so.

Do tell...

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19 Jan 2006 16:38 #18753 by kswilliams333
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I am trying to resolve the part circled in red. I wanted to put on a sidewinder (which I know is a turning issue itself, but I like the look and the underground clearance). I thought raking a little was the simple answer, maybe I should just skip it...
I am not happy with the space between my pipe and front fender, which I understand has to stay on.

I know with a v&h pro pipe or pco you have to rake the frame a little.

K Williams
Austin, Texas

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19 Jan 2006 17:43 #18768 by DanOz7Five0
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I just thought of this. If you are just trying to keep it simple and move that front fender out a bit maybe you want to just look for an LTD front fender, LTD forks have the axle mounted ahead of the forks also which I think gives a little stretched look the the front also. You might notice the difference on my
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19 Jan 2006 18:33 #18775 by wireman
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ltd forks 81 or newer might have axle in front of forklegs but the older 80 and older ltd have the same forks as kz .lock your front brake and get someone to check your clearance side to side with your forks compressed to see how much clearance you actually have when you are braking hard dont want wheel shoved into header while your trying to slowdown and turn!:S how about going to 18"front wheel and ltd fender lowered down on forklegs?goodluck,happy wrenching!B)

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19 Jan 2006 20:59 #18818 by solomrus
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man, i see your problem now...

you have the fork tubes dropped quite a bit.

there is, what, 2-2.5" above the top triples?

that is where the clearance issue comes from.

--r

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19 Jan 2006 22:02 #18826 by wireman
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yeah i was amazed by that too,ive never seen them up that high before either!might want to try some slugs in forks to limit suspension travel!goodluck,happy wrenching!

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20 Jan 2006 08:30 #18878 by kswilliams333
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so I need to adjust my front forks to the correct specs. This is the way it was when I got it. Would that make a difference in the clearance?


Is this the right fender to switch to...??




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