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03 Dec 2024 09:10 - 03 Dec 2024 09:14 #906609 by H1Vindicator
Replied by H1Vindicator on topic General help, building electrical harness
fyi. cycle terminal has waterproof bullet connectors. bottom of page. www.cycleterminal.com/bullet-terminals.html
use open barrel crimping tool. www.cycleterminal.com/crimp-tools.html

sample usage.
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03 Dec 2024 13:49 - 03 Dec 2024 21:40 #906615 by sf4t7
Replied by sf4t7 on topic General help, building electrical harness
I also recommend cycleterminal.com.  Joe sells high quality connectors and tools for reasonable prices.


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04 Dec 2024 01:12 - 04 Dec 2024 01:22 #906618 by gordone
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Thank you for sharing your experience.

The reason you are using sleeve is to avoid mechanical stress on soldering?

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04 Dec 2024 01:18 #906619 by Wookie58
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The metal sleeve does relieve stress but it also allows for a "cleaner" joint especially when joining multiple cables, once taped into a loom it will produce a nicer finish. 
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04 Dec 2024 01:22 #906620 by gordone
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I know I need to use some Ring terminals at the coils example, what is the best way here, what type to use ? soldering them ?

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04 Dec 2024 01:30 #906621 by Wookie58
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You could solder and heat shrink but good quality crimp connectors would suffice.
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10 Dec 2024 22:10 #906795 by gordone
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You could solder and heat shrink but good quality crimp connectors would suffice.
okey, but I guess need special crimping tool, maybe easier to go for solder and heat shrink?
In general way sometimes we want to solider and sometimes not?

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10 Dec 2024 23:31 #906797 by Wookie58
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You could solder and heat shrink but good quality crimp connectors would suffice.
okey, but I guess need special crimping tool, maybe easier to go for solder and heat shrink?
In general way sometimes we want to solider and sometimes not?
It's your choice, you don't have to spend a fortune on your crimping tool and you will need one for the rest of the bullet/multi-plug connectors that you will use in building a harness

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11 Dec 2024 08:58 #906818 by gordone
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I understand, I`m was thinking using Deutsch AT-DT type.

Amphenol Deutsch AT-DT Type Connector and Terminals

I have some questions around these:
1. Do I need a chrim tool for these connectors?
2. I understand I need a tool for open them up?
3. On the site they say that the kit fits 16-18 AWG terminals, is these the size include the insulation or only the core of the cabels?
4. I have order these cable kit  mo.unit Cable Kit - CafeRacerWebshop.com
5. Is it possible to go from one size og cable to another with these type of connectors?

Is their other things I need for these kit with Deutsch AT-DT ?

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11 Dec 2024 13:04 - 11 Dec 2024 13:11 #906823 by H1Vindicator
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Open barrel terminals. same as stock. where the terminal is crimped, the terminal grips the wire and grips the insulation. very good/strong.

How-to page. www.cycleterminal.com/crimp-tool-help.html

Correct crimping and crimping checks. photo from the site. buy extra terminal pins for practicing.


Open barrel crimper. crimping tool.
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11 Dec 2024 13:16 #906825 by gordone
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Thank you and Deutsch AT-DT is open barrel type?

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11 Dec 2024 13:32 #906827 by Scirocco
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AFAIK, any male or female single connector whithout insulation is an open barrel type.
Correct me if i´m wrong.....

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