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02 Aug 2022 16:56 #871549 by Scirocco
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03 Aug 2022 02:37 #871574 by Wookie58
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This was my solution after a very long journey to get a correct rpm signal and shift light to a modern speedo unit.

kzrider.com/forum/4-electrical/611461-rpm-signal-noise#811053
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www.kzrider.com/forum/4-electrical/61087...age-nightmare#805851





 
Thanks Scirocco - some really interesting stuff there, from what I can see it all relates to a fluctuating tacho needle issue. I don't think this would be an issue with a stand alone shift light that is made to work from a coil pulse and has no needle (I guess time will tell  ) If you need to go with both coils the below should work for you
 
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03 Aug 2022 06:53 #871589 by DOHC
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If you need to go with both coils the below should work for you
 

I think the diodes need to be reversed.  First, as I quoted from the shift light manual in a previous post, the shift light manual says, when adding diodes, the diode should point towards the shift light.

Second, if you imagine a simple system with a long dwell time, the negative coil wire spends most of the time grounded and is only briefly released to fire the plug.  In this situation it's very likely that when one coil wire is high, the other wire will still be grounded.  With the diodes pointing towards the coils, if either coil is grounded the shift-light input will be held at ground and won't see the firing pulse.

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03 Aug 2022 07:43 - 03 Aug 2022 07:44 #871594 by Wookie58
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If you need to go with both coils the below should work for you
 

I think the diodes need to be reversed.  First, as I quoted from the shift light manual in a previous post, the shift light manual says, when adding diodes, the diode should point towards the shift light.

Second, if you imagine a simple system with a long dwell time, the negative coil wire spends most of the time grounded and is only briefly released to fire the plug.  In this situation it's very likely that when one coil wire is high, the other wire will still be grounded.  With the diodes pointing towards the coils, if either coil is grounded the shift-light input will be held at ground and won't see the firing pulse.
If you reverse the diodes the shift light will have no path to ground to create the pulse 
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03 Aug 2022 07:57 #871596 by DOHC
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If you reverse the diodes the shift light will have no path to ground to create the pulse 

The shift light has three wires: Power, ground, and pulse.  The shift light ground would be the current path for the pulse signal.

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03 Aug 2022 09:09 - 03 Aug 2022 11:25 #871603 by Wookie58
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If you reverse the diodes the shift light will have no path to ground to create the pulse 

The shift light has three wires: Power, ground, and pulse.  The shift light ground would be the current path for the pulse signal.
The pulse can only be positive or ground, I guess ultimately you would need to know from the manufacturer weather the unit is looking for a pulsed live when the ground is broken or pulsed broken ground - this would determine the orientation of the diodes
EDIT: Been thinking about this on my drive home from work, DOHC your point about the dwell overlap makes complete sense and in hindsight the logical answer in this case would be that the pulse would be positive when the ground to the coil is broken. Therefore the orientation of the diodes would need to be reversed to that in the diagram - Happy to admit when I got it wrong 
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