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09 Aug 2021 13:54 #853460 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
Yes I am using the wells module for both, my issue is getting it running, I haven’t touched the coil for 2 & 3 after swapping those wires. I’ll look at those connectors tonight and see if there is a break or any abrasion. Does anyone know what the pickup coil gap size should be? It just doesn’t make sense that it will spark 1&4 but not 2&3 yet when manually done it sparks fine. 

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09 Aug 2021 14:23 #853461 by Scirocco
Replied by Scirocco on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
It could be possible that some little wobble of the rotor create a larger gap to the picup coil so it will not attract the pickup coil???

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09 Aug 2021 14:40 #853462 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
I will check the rotor for wobble before I start to bend the coils. Still new to this so I take it the rotor is the oblong piece of metal that engages the pickup coil when it rotates? I do still need a factory spec in order to see if they are in the correct gap or not? 

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09 Aug 2021 14:46 - 09 Aug 2021 14:46 #853463 by Scirocco
Replied by Scirocco on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
You only need to compare the gaps between the 1-4 and 2-3 pickup with a feeler gauge.
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09 Aug 2021 16:16 #853473 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
I’m not near the bike right now but I can most definitely tel you that a feeler gauge will not be wide enough. Possibly half the stack on top of each other but not a singular gauge. This is why I would want to know what the factory spec is because if mine is this far out of wack then I want to get it back to how it should be. Presumably you can measure yours with a feeler gauge. I just planned on using the ID side of a caliper. 

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10 Aug 2021 14:32 #853525 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
Well good news, consistent spark on all cylinders now, the gap was indeed too large. No fraying of the wires connecting to the coil so that was good. One thing I noticed is the battery has to have a good charge in order to fire the hei modules. It all works now just something I noticed. Now to clean the carbs again and hope it will run now. One question for you all, is there a good starting place to put the pilot screw for all cylinders? Just a base place to start tuning?

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11 Aug 2021 12:50 #853596 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
I had it all sparking yesterday and I woke up this morning hoping to start it and be able to ride it and it wouldn’t start. So I checked spark and only had spark on cylinders two and three. Nothing changed between having spark and not having spark so I’m not sure at this point. I got sick and tired of trying to fix this GM HEI igniter replacement so I just bought a dyna electronics system that replaces to pick up coils and has no use for an igniter. I realize I might have to get a different set of coils for it but if it sparks better than this replacement igniter then it’s worth it. The end of riding season is coming up and I can’t have this thing down for another six months. 

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11 Aug 2021 17:04 #853612 by Mikaw
Replied by Mikaw on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
Have you checked the ground from battery to engine, and to the frame?

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13 Aug 2021 14:06 #853718 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
This thing is so frustrating. I wake up this morning and decide to go play with it before the dyna gets here and now it sparks on all cylinders. Haven’t touched a single thing. I couldn’t ride it with it being this unreliable so I’ll have to install the dyna tomorrow morning. I found a good video that should help with my static timing. I think I’ll throw the old pickups on eBay since they were still confirmed to be good. Maybe help recoup some of the money I had to spend on the dyna. What kind of gas do you guys run? Non-ethanol? 93 octane?

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13 Aug 2021 14:07 #853719 by Elfarm98648
Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic 81 KZ750H LTD No spark
No I have not checked the grounds, if you can post where they are I’ll be sure to clean them all tomorrow morning when I install the dyna 

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