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26 Dec 2020 15:20 - 26 Dec 2020 19:30 #840614 by F64
Replied by F64 on topic Is all B7ES plugs the same?
for your reading pleasure

www.ngk.com/search/all?q=b7es

Yeah, you want NGK 1111 B7ES
NGK 2877 B7ES has a solid terminal

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30 Dec 2020 14:12 #840854 by katit
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Ok, this proves to be PITA Z1 does not carry those. I got 2 last plugs from local Autozone. Need 2 more and no local stores have them.
Seems like B7ES aka 1111 discontinued?

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30 Dec 2020 17:14 #840873 by Mikaw
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katit wrote: Ok, this proves to be PITA Z1 does not carry those. I got 2 last plugs from local Autozone. Need 2 more and no local stores have them.
Seems like B7ES aka 1111 discontinued?


As far as I know yes, but not actually discontinued but replaced. The B7ES is now a BR7ES. Resister plug now. I was able to order some through NAPA

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30 Dec 2020 18:01 - 30 Dec 2020 18:02 #840876 by Nessism
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After reading this I just ordered some ND W24ES-U plugs off ebay. It sucks that the old style removable top plugs are being discontinued.
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30 Dec 2020 18:35 #840877 by 650ed
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I've been using ND W22ES-U spark plugs in my KZ650 for the past 13 years and have found them to work better in my bike than the NGK plugs I previously used. Ed

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01 Jan 2021 00:54 - 01 Jan 2021 01:06 #840951 by F64
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You can buy NGK caps meant for a terminal nut instead a terminal stud.

www.denniskirk.com/ngk/lb05ez-spark-plug...p20372.prd/20372.sku
www.ngk.com/plug-caps-ngk?pagenumber=2

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01 Jan 2021 09:02 - 01 Jan 2021 09:15 #840964 by Mikaw
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F64 wrote: You can buy NGK caps meant for a terminal nut instead a terminal stud.

www.denniskirk.com/ngk/lb05ez-spark-plug...p20372.prd/20372.sku
www.ngk.com/plug-caps-ngk?pagenumber=2

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Thank you. Very useful info. The problem with the plug is they are superseding the non-resistor plug to a resistor plug. The new BR7ES plug is still available in removable terminal nut but will not be usable with the existing resistor caps. I don’t understand the resistor concept but read that some resistance helps increase spark strength. But if you stack resistance then you diminish spark.

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1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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Jimi Hendrix.
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01 Jan 2021 10:01 #840974 by F64
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Katit had originally purchased a solid terminal B7ES from ebay.
In that situation a different NGK plug cap would work.

The B7ES is still available but in a larger spark gap version (1.1mm vs .8mm).
You just have to tighten the gap and use a different spark plug cap as it's a solid terminal spark plug.

Part number NGK2311 (B7ES-11)
www.ngk.com/ngk-2311-b7es-11-nickel-spark-plug

table- www.ngk.com/search/partname?q=b7es

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01 Jan 2021 10:19 #840978 by Mikaw
Replied by Mikaw on topic Is all B7ES plugs the same?
Correct to address the OP. We got off typic chasing plugs as the correction.

Thank you for finding the replacement non-resistor plug. Why or what is the reasoning to go to Nickle? I also see the 2311 is a solid nut. So to continue to use the NGK we would have to swap in new caps.

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01 Jan 2021 10:31 #840979 by katit
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Too late with info. Already found correct plugs and 5k cups. There is still NOS plugs on ebay

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01 Jan 2021 12:08 #840987 by F64
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No worries katit.
I somewhat enjoy the research and seeing what solutions are available.

Mikaw,
Yeah, essentially you would swap caps. They twist on so it's not too much trouble.
Below is NGK's explanation on different metals they use.



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