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Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!

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15 Mar 2012 19:50 #509883 by iandz500

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Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets! was created by iandz500
Just started playing with my z200 (I'm in uk so it's a z200 over here!) tried wiring direct and looking for a spark, well it turns out the generator flywheel doesn't have any magnets in it!!



Strange thing is there's no damage to anything, so it doesn't look like they've come off during use but more like someone's stripped them out for some reason??

So my question is; Does anyone know which other models share the same generator rotor/flywheel??

A quick search on eBay doesn't through anything up under either z200 or klt 200 which I believe shares the same engine, just wondering if any other models share the same part z400/550 etc as they appear and at first glance look similar.

Thanks
IanD

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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15 Mar 2012 22:52 #509932 by Patton

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Replied by Patton on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Lots of good info on kawasaki.com, including parts diagrams, part names, part numbers, models sharing same part, availability, etc. Here's a link for help with navigating the site and finding information.
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...w&catid=13&id=376734

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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16 Mar 2012 12:08 #510010 by SPARKY47

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Replied by SPARKY47 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Ian,I've got a spare from a z500 if it turns out to be of any use you're welcome to it.(I'm in UK)

1980 KZ500 B2
Location: Middle England[/b

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16 Mar 2012 13:49 #510028 by iandz500

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Replied by iandz500 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Hey sparky, any chance you could measure it for me, internal and external diameters and internal and external depths please. Looking at them on eBay they all look the same!!
Thanks Sparky
Ian

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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16 Mar 2012 15:36 #510042 by gd4now

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Replied by gd4now on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
According to the Kawasaki web site the rotor (part#21007-1010) is no longer active, and it was used on the following bikes.

Model (6):
KLT200-A1 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A2 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A3 (KLT200) (1982)
KZ200-A1 (1978)
KZ200-A1A (1978)
KZ200-A2 (1979)

The stator (part# 21003-1002) is still active and was used on the following bikes

Model (21):
KLT200-A1 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A2 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A3 (KLT200) (1982)
KLT200-A4 (KLT200) (1983)
KLT200-A4A (Duckster) (1983)
KLT200-B1 (KLT200) (1983)
KLT200-C1 (KLT200) (1983)
KLT200-C2 (KLT200) (1984)
KLT250-A1 (KLT250) (1982)
KLT250-A2 (KLT250) (1983)
KLT250-C1 (Prairie) (1983)
KLT250-C2 (Prairie) (1984)
KLT250-C3 (Prairie) (1985)
KLT250-P1 (Police) (1984)
KZ200-A1 (1978)
KZ200-A1A (1978)
KZ200-A2 (1979)
KZ250-D1 (KZ250) (1980)
KZ250-D2 (CSR) (1981)
KZ250-L1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ250-W1 (LTD Belt) (1983)

1977 KZ650 B1
Pods and Denco header


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16 Mar 2012 19:05 #510067 by MFolks

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Replied by MFolks on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
I'd check with these people too:

www.electrexworld.co.uk/ro3-rotor-2762-0.html

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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16 Mar 2012 20:48 #510081 by iandz500

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Replied by iandz500 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Thanks for all the info, I've got a few more places to look now!!

Gd4now, I only found the 1st 6 listed, I assume the second part number is a replacement, do you know if that will still fit my 79 z200 and fit with my existing generator plate/coil assembly?

Thanks
IanD

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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16 Mar 2012 21:47 #510100 by SPARKY47

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Replied by SPARKY47 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
internal diameter 104.51
external diameter 130.61
internal depth 37.74
external depth 49.35

Regards from Lichfield :)

1980 KZ500 B2
Location: Middle England[/b

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17 Mar 2012 10:10 #510178 by iandz500

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Replied by iandz500 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
From those measurements it's almost the same size, any chance you could take a load of photos and email then too me? Iandefriez'at'hotmail.com

I've just got mine off and it's approx
Od 131mm
Internal depth 36.8mm
External depth 47.1mm
OD of stator coils is 104.6mm

Does yours have exposed magnets or are they enclosed with a steel insert between them and the coils?

Thanks for your help

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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17 Mar 2012 16:32 #510237 by iandz500

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Replied by iandz500 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Looks like I've just found my needle in a haystack, emailed virtually everyone on eBay last night who was selling similar items and one turned up, the fellas just pulled it off his engine, agreed a price, paid for it, now just awaiting delivery hopefully early next week!
Only thing is it only has 8 of the little 'pins' whereas mine has 9? See above for mine and below for the new one, are they just balancing pins?



See what I mean? Mine has 3 sets of 3, the replacement has 2 sets of 3 and 1 set of 2, but it doesn't look like anything is missing?

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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23 Mar 2012 05:05 #511409 by iandz500

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Replied by iandz500 on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
well the replacement fits and is in good condition, but my wiring isn't working.

I think i've now got it sussed though so should have it running before the weekend is out!

IanD

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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03 Jul 2020 00:29 #829672 by HouseLudwig

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Replied by HouseLudwig on topic Z200 /kz200 generator rotor / flywheel no magnets!
Im in a similar predicament with my 78 kawasaki kz200. I cant find the OEM part. I am open to alternative options or aftermarket parts. How do I know which options that I can replace my old rotor / stator with? I have the original stator but the rotor/flywheel is gone. I can replace all of it if I find one that I know will fit.

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