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12 Feb 2006 08:31 #23326 by Scotty355
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I am looking to upgrade my points on my 79 650 to electronic, anyone know what bikes I can swap from before I go to the junkyard? I searched thru the archives for about an hour (whew....) maybe I missed it

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12 Feb 2006 11:05 #23347 by rstnick
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KZ/GPZ550, late model 650s, and 750/4s should be an easy swap. You will also need the advancer with cam and an Igniter.
I have put a KZ1000 electronic Ign. in mine, but have yet to fire her up. Just waiting a few more weeks for some warmer temps.

Here's a link to my swap in progress: KZ1000 Ign to KZ650

Post edited by: rstnick, at: 2006/02/12 14:08

Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s (aka GPz750)
1978 KZ1000 project

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12 Feb 2006 16:10 #23411 by Scotty355
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thx nick, so basically any 550, 650 or 750 4 cyl electronic ign should fit correct?

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12 Feb 2006 17:45 #23427 by rstnick
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Correct. And hopefully, 1000s too.

Rob
CANADA

Need a key for your Kawasaki? PM me

1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s (aka GPz750)
1978 KZ1000 project

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13 Feb 2006 14:15 #23560 by BSKZ650
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why not save the time and hassle of a udes unit that may not work, the dyna is around 120.00 new, and you know it will work, put one on my 650 last year, easy , fast, cheap

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob

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13 Feb 2006 14:16 #23562 by BSKZ650
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fingers too fast should be USED

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob

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13 Feb 2006 19:25 #23684 by rstnick
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My KZ1000 Ign. cost $30 including an Igniter, so it is worth a try. Easier to sneak by the wife as well.

Rob
CANADA

Need a key for your Kawasaki? PM me

1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s (aka GPz750)
1978 KZ1000 project

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13 Feb 2006 20:02 #23705 by loudhvx
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The stock elec-ignition has a few advantages over the Dyna as well.

1) The stock elec-ignition works with 2.5 ohm coils. Going to a Dyna would require new 3-ohm (or higher) coils on a bike that came stock with elec-ignition.

2) The stock elec-ignition uses less electrical power than the Dyna. It also uses a variable dwell angle which is a little easier on the coils.

3) The Dyna has both coils on most of the time even when the engine is not turning (but the key is on). This is an issue if you want to run without a battery.

4) The dyna S puts all of the electronics right on the engine. Heat and vibration can take its toll on the electronics.

5) If the stock elec-ignition module burns out, you can make a replacement for about $30.

6) Modifying and making stuff is more satisfying than buying stuff. (This is the real reason, probably.)

Post edited by: loudhvx, at: 2006/02/13 23:14

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14 Feb 2006 19:07 #23927 by Scotty355
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Hey loudhvx I do like to do things the "hard way", I have converted old chryslers from points to electronic using all junkyard parts before and have found that when things do go wrong ,and they will, I have the knowledge to figure out the problem but I never built a module before. How would I do that?

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14 Feb 2006 23:25 #23987 by loudhvx
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Here's a couple links:

This one uses GM HEI modules and is very simple.
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/GPZgmHEImod.html

This one you make from scratch.
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/GPZignitionMod.html

I converted a Dodge to electronic ignition. The old "orange" Chrysler module and similar ones seem pretty indestructable, but they are awfully big, otherwise I probably would have used them on the bike.

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15 Feb 2006 16:06 #24109 by Scotty355
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Thanks for the info, I'm think I am going to try the HEI mod, thanks again.

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