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16 May 2006 09:43 #47714 by mind2find
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Ok, so, I have just finished rebuilding my cv carbs. The service manual states that to test for proper diaphram installation, you can push the needle piston all the way up, seal off the air intake hole with your finger and the piston should take 10+ seconds to descend back into rest position. (~3.5mm above needle-jet) My first carb passes this test (11+ seconds). The second one only takes 3 seconds to slide down. I have reinstalled it multiple times just to double-check myself. Diligent visual inspection of the suspect diaphram shows NO DAMAGE.

So my question is, is this a fail-safe test? If one vacuum piston is falling faster than the other, is this going to completely screw up the slow-down after the gas is eased off? After all of the hard work put into cleaning them really well, I'm pretty frustrated at the possibility of damage.

I think I will try to swap the diaphrams from carb to carb and see if the symptom follows. Probably will. UG!

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

1976 KZ-750B1 (late model)
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16 May 2006 10:10 #47718 by btchalice
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when you have them out hold it up to a light and look for pinholes :ohmy:

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76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
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16 May 2006 10:11 #47719 by ambergrismooon
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This is proberbly the scariest title for a thread I've ever came across. Possible Diaphram Problem. Man it sends shivers right up my......

Seriously I think you're doing it right see if the prob follows the diaphram. Luck

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16 May 2006 10:14 #47721 by Pterosaur
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ambergrismooon wrote:

This is proberbly the scariest title for a thread I've ever came across. Possible Diaphram Problem. Man it sends shivers right up my......

Seriously I think you're doing it right see if the prob follows the diaphram. Luck


Amber, you owe me a keyboard...:blink:

How'm I supposed to get all this coffee 'n snot out from 'tween all these itty-bitty keys?B)

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16 May 2006 13:28 #47765 by Nevco48
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ambergrismooon wrote:

This is proberbly the scariest title for a thread I've ever came across. Possible Diaphram Problem. Man it sends shivers right up my......


:laugh: Haha! I thought the same thing when I read that title! I had a diaphram problem about 20 years ago. Now it's costing me a boatload to put her through college!:S

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16 May 2006 15:53 #47804 by Pterosaur
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Pterosaur wrote:

ambergrismooon wrote:

This is proberbly the scariest title for a thread I've ever came across. Possible Diaphram Problem. Man it sends shivers right up my......

Seriously I think you're doing it right see if the prob follows the diaphram. Luck


Amber, you owe me a keyboard...:blink:

How'm I supposed to get all this coffee 'n snot out from 'tween all these itty-bitty keys?B)


After several milliseconds to think it over (and getting the tale of the tape over in the *packin' heat thread*), Gris, you owe me absolutely, utterly and positively NOTHING. Zip. Zero. Zilch. NAAADAAA.

Matter of fact, can I get you some coffee? A soda? Some beer, maybe? Wad myself in a ball and toss myself into the corner? Hmmmm? :blink:

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16 May 2006 19:00 #47858 by mind2find
Replied by mind2find on topic Possible Diaphram Problem
Yarg, it followed the diaphram. :(

Which, whether you were serious or not, led me to checked for pinholes.

This is what I found:



Is there some light apoxy i could mend the rubber with? (haha, i said rubber too. :pinch: )

1976 KZ-750B1 (late model)
1976 KZ-750B1 (early model) Parts Bike
Boston, MA
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16 May 2006 19:02 #47860 by mind2find
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I don't know how that got up there twice. Many thanks to my girlfriend for putting up with a kitchen table covered in carburettor parts. :)


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16 May 2006 19:08 #47861 by Pterosaur
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mind2find wrote:

I don't know how that got up there twice. Many thanks to my girlfriend for putting up with a kitchen table covered in carburettor parts. :)


Eeeeek!

Mind! Don't look now, but some homeless dude straight outta' *12 Monkeys* wandered through your back door and is munching on your floats! :woohoo:

(sorry...couldn't resist) ;)

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16 May 2006 21:03 #47910 by mind2find
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quite alright 'saur. although i'm not sure your average homeless person would be wearing goggles and a breathing mask to protect them from cancer-causing carb cleaner (CCCC). :P

but seriously, if anyone knows how i could patch this, i'm dyin' to hear this thing rev up. :woohoo:

1976 KZ-750B1 (late model)
1976 KZ-750B1 (early model) Parts Bike
Boston, MA

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16 May 2006 21:27 #47920 by steell
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mind2find wrote:

I don't know how that got up there twice. Many thanks to my girlfriend for putting up with a kitchen table covered in carburettor parts. :)


Don't worry about the double posts, it just happens sometimes and one of the mods will delete it sooner or later.

My wife don't even blink an eye at a motor apart on the kitchen table anymore, she gave up on ever civilizing me :D

Forgot to answer your question :blush:

Try a real thin coat of liquid rubber over the area where the hole is.

Post edited by: steell, at: 2006/05/17 00:30

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16 May 2006 21:57 #47925 by btchalice
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i used a rubber spray on mine i used plastidip spray and was told after i should have gotten the nitrile rubber spray from napa. no napa in wichita anymore . so far ive gotten 4 weeks and they run great

Terry Meyer / Wichita KS
76 kz900 w/1000 motor TWZTD
I am not driving too fast, I'm flying too low.

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