Better than WD-40

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11 Feb 2010 20:35 #347828 by rnuse

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Got this in an e-mail awhile back...

Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

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Drag bars, 4into1 V&H with no baffle.

1991 zephyr 550
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11 Feb 2010 21:16 #347838 by TeK9iNe

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Nice info man...
very useful.

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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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12 Feb 2010 05:12 #347859 by Kawickrice

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ATF and acetone huh, guess i'll be brewing some for my oil can

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
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12 Feb 2010 06:48 #347871 by JMKZHI

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I've had good luck w LiquidWrench products: CycleChainLube, SiliconeSpray, DryLubricant & of course their PenetratingLubricant since that's the topic.

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12 Feb 2010 07:51 - 12 Feb 2010 11:13 #347883 by Mcdroid

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Good info..I'm still using with my spray can (purchased 10 years ago) of Marvel Mystery Oil. :laugh:

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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12 Feb 2010 09:48 #347900 by 650ed

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I'm a big Kroil fan. It works great at loosening anything that's stuck and a $7 can will last a lifetime. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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12 Feb 2010 11:05 #347908 by timebomb33

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does the acetone flash off or will it stay mixed with the atf. what i'm saying is if imake a batch up will i have to keep adding acetone to keep the mixture right.

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12 Feb 2010 13:13 #347922 by TeK9iNe

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timebomb33 wrote:

does the acetone flash off or will it stay mixed with the atf. what i'm saying is if imake a batch up will i have to keep adding acetone to keep the mixture right.

Yeah, good Q. Cause acetone goes reeeeeaaaal fast!

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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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12 Feb 2010 14:51 #347931 by PLUMMEN

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how about zep45? i love the smell of that stuff! :laugh:

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12 Feb 2010 15:50 #347942 by z1kzonly

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I have been using Marvel's Mystery Oil and Laquer thinner 50/50 for over 30 years. It works great, especially for cleaning parts.

I also have a distributor that carries "wellWorth" products.
A spin off of "Castle" brand products. started in Western New York.
www.wellworthproducts.com
complete line of everything in a can.
Collision supplies and waxes etc.
They have a nice aerosal "A 2 Z" nice light oil spray, i use it on everything.
Their penetrant is called "Thust"
Check them out

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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12 Feb 2010 16:06 #347943 by jordan

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PLUMMEN wrote:

how about zep45? i love the smell of that stuff! :laugh:

ZEP45 IS AMAZING!!!!! we have it in the shop of the telephone company i work at in the summers. The stuff never ceases to amaze me. It works excellent

KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold

1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay

1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay

1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
1982 yamaha xs400

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12 Feb 2010 16:19 #347944 by larrycavan

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rnuse wrote:

Got this in an e-mail awhile back...

Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

That's some interesting info. Thanks for that!

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