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07 Aug 2019 21:57 - 07 Aug 2019 21:58 #808900 by 577nitro
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Scirocco wrote: 577nitro wrote:
Looks awesome, did you do any frame mods? Have you calculated the head angle with the upgrades?

Had bought a Frame bracing kit, mono shock bolt on kit Susuki GSXR1100 engine conversion kit plus the engine for 250 Euro last year. The Price was a steal.
The Frame in the Picture is an especially Italian Z1000 Frame with stamped stars before and after the VIN#! A very popular frame for the Japenese collectors.
He ask 50 Euro for the Frame but i had no more space in my car to took him home.
The steering head angle is stock and don´t need any mods.


That kit is cool as shit. Any plans of putting that gxsr engine in it?
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07 Aug 2019 22:10 #808901 by 577nitro
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Updated photos with my PMC S1 style rear sets from webbike.jap and my ELR style fairing. Fairing fits perfect, exact replica of the ELR/82GPZ.

Rear sets fit perfect as well, bolt right up and are amazing quality solid as shit.

Desperately need to find a way to upgrade the forks, either re-valve, emulators, springs or replace with late model something. I think with some machining I can squeeze a set of CBRF3 41mm tubes in with out the agro of a full swap out.

577nitro

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08 Aug 2019 06:45 #808907 by TexasKZ
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That is a nice looking ride. I see your bike has the never-popular security cable in the frame. I have never seen one in person. It seems like such a good idea, though I have seen people claim that they allow water to get into the frame. Do you use the cable? Is it as useful as it appears to be?

1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

www.kzrider.com/11-projects/620336-anoth...uild-thread?start=24

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11 Aug 2019 01:11 - 11 Aug 2019 07:55 #809022 by 577nitro
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TexasKZ wrote: That is a nice looking ride. I see your bike has the never-popular security cable in the frame. I have never seen one in person. It seems like such a good idea, though I have seen people claim that they allow water to get into the frame. Do you use the cable? Is it as useful as it appears to be?


Thanks, it's been a lot of work, came in pieces, tried to get original FI to work but it was just too Mickey Mouse a system and cost more than a set of RS race carbs.
I bought it from the original owners widow, it had all of 3000 miles on it. With the carbs and pipe, and proper tuning it makes some serious power. It can easily keep up with my 2000 ZRX1100...

The cable was ordered by the original owner, it's in the original invoice along with fairing, that ugly big one. No rust in mine. but it has always been garaged; its greased up pretty heavily too. I can see that water could get in for sure. Never used it, but it would work no problem.

577
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01 Oct 2019 15:28 #811582 by 577nitro
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Yeah, my big Webike.japan order come in, pretty fast, only 5 days from order to delivery from JAPAN..

Below is the order:

PMC S1 low style bars.
PMC Heavy Duty engine mounts.
Adjustable SS side stand.
NHK S1 style steering damper.
Digital GPS Speedometer.

That side stand is very high quality, fully machined.

577nitro.
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11 Oct 2019 07:15 - 11 Oct 2019 07:18 #812243 by 531blackbanshee
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gpz looks good!
i have been very pleased with my 17 " wheel conversion on my 1980 z1r.
it is very stable at speed and in corners.so much so that a hiway patrolman caught my tipping up out of a corner at 89mph.:whistle:
fortunately for me he caught me when he did,as i was just grabbing a hand full of throttle and was fixing to gobble up a straightaway :evil:




leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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04 Feb 2020 16:46 - 04 Feb 2020 16:52 #818588 by 577nitro
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Updating on latest incarnation, I've now fitted a ZRX1100 rear swingarm with a 20mm through bolt up grade. Bored and reamed the frame for a tight no slop fit; used a ZRX1100 rear axle which fit perfectly. I milled the thread end back to fit the 17mm hole and be as tight as possible. Also milled down the head of the bolt so it didn't look funny. It was NOT as straight in fit, I had to mill down the end shims about 2mm so it would snuggly. Also had to file back the swingarm a little too. Pretty happy with the results so far...should handle a lot better without the slop. I had to shim out the S1 style rear sets on the right side to clear the swingarm. Next up is a mounting the S1 replica bars. Probably looking at dropping in a set of performance street cams...nothing too wild at this point. Been looking for a late model bathtub head, but they are rare.
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03 Oct 2020 15:27 #836110 by 577nitro
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Ride report and update..

So I now have a full summer of riding on the GPZ1100 with suspension upgrades...wow what a difference! I LOVE riding this bike! I used it to commute to
work about 70% of time this summer, and have put at least 5000 miles on it. I ride 600 miles a week commuting, about 60 miles one way on back country roads.
Needless to say I really let're eat on some sections....rock ass solid at 100+ no problems. No slappers, wobbles, pogoing...nothing just stable as can be. Power is wonderful now that I have the Mikuni RS34's dialed in as well. It will pull redline in every gear...roll on is massive no need to downshift. It easily is making the same power as my ZRX1100.

Here is what my current suspension mods are sitting at:

1. ZRX1100 rear swingarm with 20mm through bolt (zrx1100 rear axle) upgrade, hole reamed slightly tight for zero slop per Dr. Gamma advice.
2. 1986 GSXR1100 front and rear wheels, for a 4.0 inch rear with a 150 mounted and a 2.75 front with a 110 mounted.
3. Critical step here..front and rear wheels perfectly aligned < than a 1mm off. They were at least 1 cm off when I first checked it! This is key to fixing slappers.
4. NHK high end steering dampener.
5. S1 style lower triple clamp from Motogp. Stiffened the forks.
6. ZRX1100 rear shocks overhauled by DMR Jamie Daughtery << great guy.
7. Installed RaceTek Cartridge emulators both forks with O rings for a tight fit..1.5 clicks in. per side.
8. RaceTek fork springs.
9. Critical point here, multiple weeks testing the perfect fork oil mixture for this setup. For me 20ml ATF with seal conditioner, 30ml 75-120w synthetic gear oil (for rebound), then the remaining 10-30w synthetic motor oil. Also 10psi air per fork. For more rebound add the gear oil in 10ml increments. Caution this only works in ancient NON cartridge forks. I use this same basic formula in my RZ350 also...works perfect.
10. Change the fork oil often, dirt and grit contaminate it causing leaking seals. I found a way to change the GPZ1100 fork oil in about 15 minutes. I use a an old Hyperlube bottle which as a cone sprout. It fits perfectly into the air valve hole (remove the valve) and I have pre measured the oil and just let drain in. cap it and use a bicycle hand pump to put 10psi in per side. ..and Bobs your uncle.
11.Lasty, a Fork Brace.

Before modifying the forks like above, they were worthless...bottomed on braking, zero dampening down right dangerous. Now, they work like modern forks, fork travel is around 3.5 to 4 inches max..no bottoming, no diving on hard braking, and great rebound dampening. They are far less harsh than my ZRX, that just beats me to death. I can go over a real bumpy patched road surface at speed 90+ and it just floats over it...never gets upset. I tried Dr. Gamma's trick of slapping the bars ar speed to try and induce wobbles and nothing...I did this at about 65mph...not 90 like he does..not that brave..

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03 Oct 2020 15:27 #836111 by 577nitro
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Ride report and update..

So I now have a full summer of riding on the GPZ1100 with suspension upgrades...wow what a difference! I LOVE riding this bike! I used it to commute to
work about 70% of time this summer, and have put at least 5000 miles on it. I ride 600 miles a week commuting, about 60 miles one way on back country roads.
Needless to say I really let're eat on some sections....rock ass solid at 100+ no problems. No slappers, wobbles, pogoing...nothing just stable as can be. Power is wonderful now that I have the Mikuni RS34's dialed in as well. It will pull redline in every gear...roll on is massive no need to downshift. It easily is making the same power as my ZRX1100.

Here is what my current suspension mods are sitting at:

1. ZRX1100 rear swingarm with 20mm through bolt (zrx1100 rear axle) upgrade, hole reamed slightly tight for zero slop per Dr. Gamma advice.
2. 1986 GSXR1100 front and rear wheels, for a 4.0 inch rear with a 150 mounted and a 2.75 front with a 110 mounted.
3. Critical step here..front and rear wheels perfectly aligned < than a 1mm off. They were at least 1 cm off when I first checked it! This is key to fixing slappers.
4. NHK high end steering dampener.
5. S1 style lower triple clamp from Motogp. Stiffened the forks.
6. ZRX1100 rear shocks overhauled by DMR Jamie Daughtery << great guy.
7. Installed RaceTek Cartridge emulators both forks with O rings for a tight fit..1.5 clicks in. per side.
8. RaceTek fork springs.
9. Critical point here, multiple weeks testing the perfect fork oil mixture for this setup. For me 20ml ATF with seal conditioner, 30ml 75-120w synthetic gear oil (for rebound), then the remaining 10-30w synthetic motor oil. Also 10psi air per fork. For more rebound add the gear oil in 10ml increments. Caution this only works in ancient NON cartridge forks. I use this same basic formula in my RZ350 also...works perfect.
10. Change the fork oil often, dirt and grit contaminate it causing leaking seals. I found a way to change the GPZ1100 fork oil in about 15 minutes. I use a an old Hyperlube bottle which as a cone sprout. It fits perfectly into the air valve hole (remove the valve) and I have pre measured the oil and just let drain in. cap it and use a bicycle hand pump to put 10psi in per side. ..and Bobs your uncle.
11.Lasty, a Fork Brace.

Before modifying the forks like above, they were worthless...bottomed on braking, zero dampening down right dangerous. Now, they work like modern forks, fork travel is around 3.5 to 4 inches max..no bottoming, no diving on hard braking, and great rebound dampening. They are far less harsh than my ZRX, that just beats me to death. I can go over a real bumpy patched road surface at speed 90+ and it just floats over it...never gets upset. I tried Dr. Gamma's trick of slapping the bars ar speed to try and induce wobbles and nothing...I did this at about 65mph...not 90 like he does..not that brave..

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03 Oct 2020 16:15 #836113 by Skidmark
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Sweet ride!

Retired gearhead
'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)

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03 Oct 2020 17:37 #836114 by Dr. Gamma
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Great looking bike!!!!!

Isn't fun riding a bike you know won't try to spit you off at the most inopportune moment!!!!

1972 H2 750 Cafe Racer built in 1974.
1976 KH400 Production Road Racer.
1979 Kz1000 MK. II Old AMA/WERA Superbike.
1986 RG500G 2 stroke terror.
1986 GSXR750RG The one with the clutch that rattles!

Up in the hills near Prescott, Az.

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04 Oct 2020 04:52 #836128 by Rick H.
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Nice looking bike, very nice. And it's a brave man that tries to induce instability by whacking a handlebar end especially at high speed!

Rick H.

Rick H.

1977 Kawasaki KZ-1000A1

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