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12 Jun 2015 08:51 #676305 by undiablo
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Good work!

Kawasaki KZ 750/4 LTD 1981
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16 Jun 2015 20:26 #676894 by Jbosh
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Okay, things have been too wet or windy to paint after priming everything. I got a head start on the seat pan. Air relief holes are drilled and I test fit the foam and I think I'm happy with the comfort. Problem is, ideally I'd like to have the seat on a hinge. Here's a pic of the old ones. I recall something like a t handle clamp of sorts and wondered if that would work to secure the seat to the frame? Do any of you know how brat seats are normally attached to a frame?

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With the perspective foam (1 camping mat and a yoga mat)

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20 Jun 2015 22:43 - 21 Jun 2015 06:17 #677530 by Jbosh
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The rims have seen their first coat of gloss black. I am really liking how they are turning out so far! I am trying to pull dents for the second time on the fuel tank. The whole tank as been stripped down but I can't seem to bond these 2 1/2" ardox nails to the tank via JB weld in order to pull them! I used wax and grease remover too. I dunno. I figure this really should not be as difficult as it has been. The knee wells are so close. Once those dents are pulled then the final knee end shaping can be wrapped up. I think I am going to bite the bullet and soda blast the engine to clean it off too. Engine degreaser isn't cutting it. Yeah, it's a really dirty engine... Atleast this old bike is seeing some love as best as I can. Once I figure out the seat pan mounts to the frame, the frame is ready to be gloss blacked as well! It's these little things...

Pics to come

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21 Jun 2015 00:18 - 21 Jun 2015 09:21 #677536 by davido
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The engine is out! First one! Any tips on how to seal the openings so cleaner and junk doesn't get into the engine?

For sealing the carb inlets, I used 8mm MDF. I used the inet rubbers as a stencil, drew around them and cut out the MDF. I drilled bolt holes to match the originals and mounted these with a small bead of silicone using the original bolts.
For the exhaust ports,I stuffed each port with a plastic bag then filled up the opening with silicone.I also did this for the started motor hole
and for the crankcase breather.I just used a piece of wood,shaped and rounded to wedge in with some plummers white tape wrapped around it.
I degreased the engine,went over it with paint stripper then took it up to my local petrol sation and attacked it with the power washer.
It came up very well with no sign of water getting through. If I do it again though,I would coat the exhaust port openings with grease first to stop the silicone sealing to the alloy. It was a pig to get out.
Good luck with yours

P.S.Heres a link to some photos ,you can get the idea;
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
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21 Jun 2015 14:22 #677614 by Jbosh
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Tada! First coat!

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22 Jun 2015 16:55 - 22 Jun 2015 16:59 #677798 by Jbosh
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Most of the mid size elements have hereby been revived paint wise. The gloss black is looking good! The rims turned out awesome and after it has fully cured in a week, it will be time for the new rubber! I feel like a doof but I had assumed that JB Weld epoxy was similar in metal bonding ability to their classic 2 part grey metal epoxy. Yeah the other stuff is general use. Lesson learned. Dents will now be pulled in the tank thanks to getting it right this time and the nail heads actually bonding to the tank. The dents are just a wee bit too deep for bondo. Soon though! Frame and tank will be bondoed at the same time.

The triple tree top and belt guard:

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Rear swing arm and centre stand:

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Question for the masses: Do you recommend clear coating the components that have been gloss blacked thus far? I have clear for the tank only at present. If so, what product?

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22 Jun 2015 17:33 #677805 by Jbosh
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Davido, thanks for sharing that link to your build thread! I see what you did there seal wise and I like it! Great idea and very simple. The electronics tray will be getting attention this evening but that there seal idea will have my mind on it for the next few days. Thanks for helping out this Canuck!

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22 Jun 2015 21:32 #677833 by Jbosh
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Electronics and map tray stencil

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1.5" deep tray with plans for an attached battery box in the forward section. Still working out how things will function but hey, what else do you do while waiting to pull dents from the tank! Well... there's lots haha. I'm thinking of attaching to the old airbox anchor holes, the cross bar in the seat frame, and just ahead of the rear loop. Now to figure out the seat hinge, lock, and how to seal things from the elements under the seat...

Some days this feels like more than an evening hobby. Good thing my wife to be is on board!

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23 Jun 2015 21:49 - 23 Jun 2015 21:52 #678035 by Jbosh
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I am taking a second look at the clearance from the back tire to the bottom of the electronics tray rear by the rear hoop. I may have to raise that small rear box so it is flush with the top of the frame aka bottom of the seat. Hmmm... It's about 15mm less clearance than the previous fender was to the rear wheel. The new shocks are 10mm longer than the old.

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24 Jun 2015 09:24 #678096 by Drafter89
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Jbosh wrote: With the perspective foam (1 camping mat and a yoga mat)

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What did you use as padding now? perspective foam, camping mat, and a yoga mat? What is perspective foam lol? Reason im asking is because Im trying to get ideas for my seat as well.
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24 Jun 2015 16:38 #678131 by Jbosh
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Drafter, I said perspective because it is what I am anticipating but I haven't finalized quite yet. What I have schemed and setup in the pic I shared has 4 layers of 6mm camping foam with one layer of 5mm yoga mat on top. I understand that 3.1cm of seat foam isn't tons lol. The whole thing will have to be sealed all around somehow and not just glued from the bottom up. I'll do my best to document how mine turns out!

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25 Jun 2015 06:16 #678206 by Drafter89
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Jbosh wrote: Drafter, I said perspective because it is what I am anticipating but I haven't finalized quite yet. What I have schemed and setup in the pic I shared has 4 layers of 6mm camping foam with one layer of 5mm yoga mat on top. I understand that 3.1cm of seat foam isn't tons lol. The whole thing will have to be sealed all around somehow and not just glued from the bottom up. I'll do my best to document how mine turns out!

Oh haha. thats what I figured. I will be trying this out. Thanks a ton! Wonder If you could use some kind of spray adhesive on them to make them stick and seal together?

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