No spark at the POINTS??

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 09:09 - 21 Jan 2011 09:12
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ohh no the dreaded lockout switch, i forgot about that, thank god I dont have one of those :S

tapeworm race, Funny :laugh:
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 09:30
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^^HAAAA


ANYWAY I NEED TO BE PULLING IN THE CLUCH TO GET THIS WORKIN??? REALLY??

OK THAT COULD BE PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR SURE..ILL PULL IT IN...THEN CHECK WIRES IF NOTHING GOES ON WITH CLUCH LEVER IN

THANX FOR ALL ADVICE!!

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 09:36
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Please... stop yelling. :laugh:

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 09:39
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MAYBE HIS HEARING AID HAS AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM AS WELL :woohoo:

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 10:18 - 21 Jan 2011 10:38
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^^^bwaaa haa haaa...thats a classic
Nice avi bro
dam caps lock

i have to have it on for work...so i forget all the time

my Apologies gang

yall have been a super help...
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 22:00 - 21 Jan 2011 22:03
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update again!!!
found a few problems and fixed some....

so i somehow turned the key to park and hit the start button...BAM...it turns over...WTF???

the lights go out but there is power at the points and up to the coil leads(yellow and blue that go into the coil)...nothing after the coil at the plug end leads...

so i assume that the ignition was changed to something that didnt match up right???

so i cracked out the connector and pulled the wires out and matched them up with the colors on the harness side....there is 2 whites and an extra green i think...so i got it now to be correct i think...
i have lights on and started button working and power from points to the coil now when the key is in ignition setting...but no power at pulgs...so no spark there...what the best test for coil...manual says dealer tool is best but can use meter..i tried the meter test and got nothing like it says...

any ways to test??

prolly just replace it....

when i had the meter in the plug caps there was no volt reading when start was pushed and held for a few seconds...but when let go there was a reading of a few volts?? normal or not??

thanks for all this advice...i could not of gotten here so fast without it!!
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

21 Jan 2011 22:28 - 21 Jan 2011 22:32
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I think either u still have a short somewhere or ur coils are bad or BOTH, BUT more often that not coils go bad one at a time not both at the same time, check wiring from points to coils
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

22 Jan 2011 08:05
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will check points to coil again...

i did have power from the points wire blue...and the ignition yellow with that both go into the coil....and i only have 1 coil for a twin....correct..?

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

22 Jan 2011 08:11
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bgmrc wrote:
will check points to coil again...

i did have power from the points wire blue...and the ignition yellow with that both go into the coil....and i only have 1 coil for a twin....correct..?

sorry too many beers last nite, yep one coil for twin, so we may have a winner, looks like a new coil for u, may I recommend Z1 enterprises for parts, great service lowest price for these bikes

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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

22 Jan 2011 08:21 - 22 Jan 2011 09:59
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Don't know which test instrument you're using, DVOM, test light? Any way if you have the DVOM, test the resistance of both primary side, where the yellow and blue wires go, and the secondary side. Also put either your test light or DVOM in between the to wires, yellow and blue, like taking place of your coil. Coil is disconnected, test instrument is across circuit, crank motor with key on. If a test light was used it should flash as points open and close, or if DVOM, you should get a change in voltage, easier to see with a analog meter/ needle style. If this checks out, then get the new coil, but also would recommend a points and condenser set.

Measuring coil resistance. This is a generic picture, your specs may be different.
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

22 Jan 2011 08:24 - 22 Jan 2011 08:27
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yea its always a good idea to have a extra set on hand regardless, I thought he check the condenser already but I may be wrong, I remember somebody mentioning it
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Re: No spark at the POINTS??

22 Jan 2011 10:22 - 22 Jan 2011 10:29
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Whoa... wait. Don't buy a coil just yet!

Watch this video first:

...a very simple way to test your coils out of the system, and eliminate them from the equation.

Same thing can be done in the bike, by grounding the sparkplugs against the head/case, and with the ignition on (12+Volts at the coil), pull the trigger/ground wire off the ignition coil. When you do it should cause the plugs to spark. Reconnect, then remove wire again, the plugs should spark.

Heat the coil with a hairdryer, and gap the plugs very large and see if a spark will jump very far- immitating running conditions under compression.

This just mimics what the pickups do - basically just dropping the power to the coil input intermittantly, causing the power left in the coil to jump through the plugs back to ground.

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