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piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 08:13
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what is the ideal clearence for forged wiseco pistons(k810).just reringing my 810 and after hone i have about .004" is this too much should i have another cylinder bored out?
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 10:22
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.0015 to .002". .004" is way loose.

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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 11:42
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Is the .004" at the bottom or top of the piston? They are tapered from top to bottom, widest at the bottom.
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 15:41
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yea it`s at the bottom of the skirt. too lose ok
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 15:47
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so a rebore with about .002" piston to cylinder clearance .is this average for forged pistons?
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

18 Dec 2010 23:02
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It depends on how the piston is made and what it is made from. my answer was for a Wiseco

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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

19 Dec 2010 07:50
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are cast pistons set up tighter then forged?
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

19 Dec 2010 14:42
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Yes. However, Wiseco uses a high silicon 4032 material and can run almost as tight as a cast piston.

2618 material used by most others has to run with more clearance.

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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

20 Dec 2010 15:39
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thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

20 Dec 2010 15:59
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on my street motors i use the wiseco spec's on my race motors i go about .001 looser just because they don't get as much chance to warm up fully
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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

20 Dec 2010 21:55
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kawi810 wrote:
thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.



The opposite is true with Wiseco.

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Re: piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

21 Dec 2010 11:50
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kawi810 wrote:
thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.



The opposite is true with Wiseco.

Says the man who has probably sold and installed more Wiseco motorcycle kits than anyone else in this country.
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