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16 Dec 2016 01:35 #750276 by davido
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Does anyone have any experience with this stuff. Im looking at it to clearcoat my tank and tail. Is it petrol proof ? will it cover on acrylic top coat? Is it buffable? Im also looking for something for the engine side cases. Is this stuff heat resistent?
Any information appreciated.Thanks.

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16 Dec 2016 03:40 #750277 by ThatGPzGuy
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Never heard of it. I use Spraymax 2K for fuel tanks. Is the Rustoleum 2 part?

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16 Dec 2016 04:59 - 16 Dec 2016 05:04 #750278 by martin_csr
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If it doesn't come in the special 2-part can, then it probably isn't fuel proof.
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16 Dec 2016 05:55 #750281 by Nessism
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Rustoleum falls into the bubble gum class of paints. It sprays out nicely for a rattle can and all but don't expect it to hold up to heat, chemicals, or abrasion.
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18 Dec 2016 13:51 #750378 by missionkz
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Do not waste anymore time looking or talking.
GET Spraymax 2K!!
Not hard to use... yes a bit harder to wet sand and buff to a fine polish.... but I've spilled gas a couple times on mine and all it does is melt off the wax coating. Rewax the Spraymax 2K and buff.. just like new again.

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19 Dec 2016 00:34 #750407 by davido
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Thanks for the input. I have found a local source for Spraymax 2k. The main question is,will it go on acryllic based topcoat??

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19 Dec 2016 05:08 - 19 Dec 2016 05:11 #750410 by martin_csr
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From their tech info application section on the 2k clear page:
Solvent and water-diluted basecoat systems after drying according to manufacturer’s instructions.
Old paint, cleaned and sanded


I would contact them just to make certain. and of course make sure the new basecoat paint is fully cured
before spraying the 2k stuff.
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19 Dec 2016 11:01 #750427 by davido
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I called spraymax today and explained that I wanted to clearcoat on top of acrylic paint. They reckon that with a very thin misting for a tack coat,I might get away with it! Hmmmmmmm! Thats a big maybe. I told them the brand of paint that I was using and they poo-pooed it. Not as good quality as their paint! Of course.
Anyway,looking into this stuff, it does look very good. I havent found any negative reactions to it and they do next day delivery.
A big risk though if it reacts badly with the base coat!!!!!
What to do,What to do.............?

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19 Dec 2016 11:16 #750429 by martin_csr
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Do you know any bodyshop guys? They might know if a urethane can be sprayed over acrylic-lacquer.

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19 Dec 2016 11:18 #750430 by Nessism
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You can't blame the Spraymax for lack of compatibility with acrylic's. They are not designed for that. Basecoats are typically almost like lacquer; once the solvent evaporates out they are ready for clearcoat. Acrylic's are totally different.

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19 Dec 2016 11:41 - 19 Dec 2016 11:43 #750432 by missionkz
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martin_csr wrote: Do you know any bodyshop guys? They might know if a urethane can be sprayed over acrylic-lacquer.

I have sprayed it over acrylic lacquer many times....
As long as the acrylic lacquer is fully cured.
If it is already cured and rather glossy, wet sand the acrylic lacquer with at least a 1200-1500 grit wet and dry paper first.
Make the old finish look dull but very smooth.
Clean the living bejesus out of the old finish after this and wipe it with a CLEAN tack cloth.
One light but well covering thin'ish coat of Spraymax 2K followed by a nice thick coat with NO RUNS a little later.
Then let it dry and cure... depending on temparture this could be a while.
After, break out the wet and dry 1500 paper for the hard part.
After that I usually do one more coat of clear and super wet 1500 sanding rounds.
Finish up with 2500 to 3000 wet and dry paper... almost looks glossy then but still satin like.
Then get GOOD quality paint polish, NOT rubbing compound.
You should be able to polish with a good quality polishing rag but if you know how to use a bufffing wheel..... that is much faster.
Below is a weekend project tank using this method....
Total investment, including the tail piece and side covers was around $42.00

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19 Dec 2016 12:09 - 20 Dec 2016 06:11 #750435 by martin_csr
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Thanks. Your method is basically the same way I did a fuel tank using only acrylic-lacquers. For the last step I used Meguiar's mirror glaze swirl remover to polish the final coat. It came out nice but wasn't fuel proof. doh. .... green tank in photo. the blue tank was done at an auto body shop pro bono.

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