KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake

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10 Aug 2024 10:54 - 10 Aug 2024 11:09 #903047 by Womtong
KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake was created by Womtong
  Hi guys
 Have a problem with my rear brake lever.
 Cannot adjust the pedal to reach it comfortable with my leg. It seems like it is bent or wrong because it touches the screw head from the food rest.
 Are there different versions out there or what could be the problem?
See the picture: Until I try to adjust the pedal higher, it touches the screw (red marked). 
So clear mentioned: If you look sideward on the bike, the pedal from the brake is below the food rest. This makes braking not nice.

Hope you understand what I mean.
 
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    10 Aug 2024 11:18 - 10 Aug 2024 11:21 #903048 by Warren3200gt
    Replied by Warren3200gt on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
    The bracket with the threaded hole in it just above the two blue veticle lines on your picture should have an inverted bolt in it with a lock nut under the bracket. 
    You can see the witness marks where it was hitting the brake lever to stop it raising to far. 
    You are missing the bolt and lock nut.


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    10 Aug 2024 11:19 #903049 by Wookie58
    Replied by Wookie58 on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
    I'm no 650 expert but from what I can see there appears to be an adjustable pedal stop bolt missing (green arrow) and a return spring (blue arrow) with cafe style bars I would expect the pedal to rest lower than the footpeg as this would be the best position (IMHO)

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    10 Aug 2024 13:10 #903056 by Womtong
    Replied by Womtong on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
       

     Sorry guys for confusing you.
     Set screw and bolts are there. First picture was taken during testing different things.
     See both attached pictures which are showing current situation.
     Second picture shows the problem.
     The red line marks where in my opinion the pedal should be. Green shows the difference.
     As mentioned, for my opinion the pedal is too low. Maybe wrong pedal or bent.
     It is impossible to adjust it higher because contact to the foot rest screw.

     Hope now it’s clear.
    Thanks!
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    10 Aug 2024 13:32 #903060 by Wookie58
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    Have you checked a part diagram (Partzilla, CMNSL etc) to see if there is a spacer missing from behind the pedal ??

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    10 Aug 2024 13:54 #903061 by Warren3200gt
    Replied by Warren3200gt on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
    1. adjust the pedal to where you want it using the set screw and lock it off. 
    2. Adjust the nut on the drum arm puller rod to set the lever travel and required shoe movement to actuate the brake. 

    Or am I not understanding your question?? 


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    10 Aug 2024 14:00 - 10 Aug 2024 14:02 #903062 by Womtong
    Replied by Womtong on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake

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     [attachment=172005"]IMG_0108.jpeg[/attachment]Warren3200gt post=903061 userid=50487"]1. adjust the pedal to where you want it using the set screw and lock it off. 
    2. Adjust the nut on the drum arm puller rod to set the lever travel and required shoe movement to actuate the brake. 

    Or am I not understanding your question?? 

    Thanks Warren, but you do not understand the problem (is difficult to understand).
     The problem is that I cannot rise more the pedal because of foot rest screw is touching pedal.
     See picture.
    Are you able to show me how high your pedal is?

     
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    10 Aug 2024 14:10 #903064 by Womtong
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    10 Aug 2024 14:15 - 10 Aug 2024 14:23 #903066 by Warren3200gt
    Replied by Warren3200gt on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
    Ah, OK now I understand. The lever arm will not rise sufficiently because it hits the footrest mount bolt?
    If that's the problem you brake lever arm is bent inwards towards the engine. 
    Has the bike been crashed on that side? 
    Are there any scuffs on the outside edge of the pedal to show its been done the road.? Remember the foot rests fold up so if it has been in a slide the brake pedal lever is the part that will take the impact. 
    Here's a pic of mine to try and show how much clearance there should be between the pedal arm and footrest mount bolt.  
     


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    10 Aug 2024 14:15 #903067 by Wookie58
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    From what I understand the pedal is catching the mounting bolt for the footrest (not by much by the look of it) so I guess that either you are trying to set it higher than intended or it is slightly bent. It looks to me like with a little heat you could gain the clearance you are looking for
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    10 Aug 2024 14:27 #903068 by Womtong
    Replied by Womtong on topic KZ650 rear brake lever drum brake
    Thanks Wooki and Warren.
     Ok, now I am sure that the arm is bent. Maybe from previous owner.
     However, have tried to bend it back but it is Super stiff and it moves 0.
     Will try something with heat in the winter time.

    Thanks again and greetings!
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    10 Aug 2024 14:48 #903069 by gd4now
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    According to the FSM the peddle was not intended to be even with the top of the foot rest and unless you bend it I do not think it will come up to that level without hitting as it does not.

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