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KZ650 Forward Controls?
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16 Oct 2005 19:06 #2205
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I got to looking at my bike today and noticed what looks like a bolt/mounting hole on the side of the frame just under the engine. There's an identical one on the other side. I was wondering if this was for a forward control option? I'll include pics altho I'll have to do a second post cause I haven't figured out how to post more than one pic per post yet.:blink:
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16 Oct 2005 19:08 #2207
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Here's the other side....
was thinking if the case guards weren't installed the holes used for them in conjunction with these holes might be for a forward control setup. I'd really like to put forward controls on the bike. My knees have a tendency to hurt if bent to long and to much.
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was thinking if the case guards weren't installed the holes used for them in conjunction with these holes might be for a forward control setup. I'd really like to put forward controls on the bike. My knees have a tendency to hurt if bent to long and to much.
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16 Oct 2005 19:44 #2225
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I have never seen mounts in that location. When I looked at the '83 frame pic (below), it doesn't seem to show them either. Is it the same on the other side? And is it welded onto the frame? Does it look stock or like someone added it on?
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16 Oct 2005 19:48 #2229
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It is welded onto the frame on both sides. Near as I can tell it looks stock. Or at the very least was modded before a complete frame repaint. Both sides are identical in the exact same position. And look like they are threaded holes. I double check tomorrow to see if they are truly threaded.
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16 Oct 2005 19:57 #2232
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Bud, check your u2u, if you didn't yet.
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17 Oct 2005 17:31 #2399
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17 Oct 2005 19:34 #2438
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Well I found something interesting. The '84 ZN700 and KZ700 have frames with that mount. I could not find what mounted there though. Maybe if you can find some pictures of those models, you may see what's mounted there.
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17 Oct 2005 19:59 #2449
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17 Oct 2005 22:00 #2473
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I'm not going to say there are no Kawasaki or aftermarket forward controls for the older KZs (I'm talking the inline fours here), but I can say I've never seen them. So I don't think any of these holes, threaded or not, are meant for forwards.
I have, however, seen forwards built for KZs and other inlines, both drum and disc brake rear wheels, over at Chopper Underground, Honda Chopper, and Hardcore Chopper. Many of these same guys hang out at Chopper Crossroads, too, but the site is too new to have a lot of tech files.
Every cold day in Hell or so, I see a set on eBay made for old metrics, but they might not be for KZs. And there are a lot of people who have reworked Sporty forwards, the ones you can get for cheap from Jireh, onto KZs and other inlines.
The thing to remember when building forwards for inlines is that the motors are essentially mounted perpendicular to the frame, not parallel like V-twins. Consequently, they're a bit wider and have awkward clearance problems.
Go poke around those sites, ask a few questions, look in the tech sections. Let me know how you make out, either here or there. I'm a member on all those forums, but not active in Honda Chopper and not very much in Hardcore.
And I've seen them mounted exactly where you mentioned--the engine guard brackets. The two holes on the brackets are sufficient.
Maybe you can find someone to make them, get a referral, or even a design or an idea to make them yourself.
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I have, however, seen forwards built for KZs and other inlines, both drum and disc brake rear wheels, over at Chopper Underground, Honda Chopper, and Hardcore Chopper. Many of these same guys hang out at Chopper Crossroads, too, but the site is too new to have a lot of tech files.
Every cold day in Hell or so, I see a set on eBay made for old metrics, but they might not be for KZs. And there are a lot of people who have reworked Sporty forwards, the ones you can get for cheap from Jireh, onto KZs and other inlines.
The thing to remember when building forwards for inlines is that the motors are essentially mounted perpendicular to the frame, not parallel like V-twins. Consequently, they're a bit wider and have awkward clearance problems.
Go poke around those sites, ask a few questions, look in the tech sections. Let me know how you make out, either here or there. I'm a member on all those forums, but not active in Honda Chopper and not very much in Hardcore.
And I've seen them mounted exactly where you mentioned--the engine guard brackets. The two holes on the brackets are sufficient.
Maybe you can find someone to make them, get a referral, or even a design or an idea to make them yourself.
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18 Oct 2005 04:54 #2501
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Maybe the threaded holes are for the OEM Kawasaki engine guard?
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19 Oct 2005 05:56 #2741
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I just went out and looked at my 77 kz650, no mount, looked at the 78 kz650 parts bike, no mount, I am not sure what they are for
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19 Oct 2005 23:51 #2925
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BSKZ650, which "no mount" are you referring to--the single threaded hole mount, or the mounts where an engine guard would go?
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