1982 kz 750e starter upgrade?

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04 Nov 2022 07:57 #876371 by Ricco86
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Hi all, 
I was wondering if anyone has replaced or upgraded the starter on their kz 750e. I rebuilt mine last year and the only parts I found were on Amazon of course aftermarket. The issue back then and now again is brushes worn out to the point of not starting. The commutator was slightly deformed and since couldn’t find a replacement I carefully file it while using a drill to spin it gently. This wasn’t the right way but kept me going and allowed me to ride for the season. Also Is the coil housing or sleeve should be smooth because mine isn’t 

Ricco
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04 Nov 2022 08:03 #876372 by zed1015
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Hi. Squaring up the commutator is best done on a lathe then cut back the mica between the segments.
As for replacement .
Any of the aircooled Z650/Z750  fours and newer aircooled ZR750 Zephyr starter motors will fit so it shouldn't be too hard finding a decent replacement as there's tons of them new and used on ebay.

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04 Nov 2022 08:10 #876374 by Nessism
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"Stockers" is the go to place for starter rebuild kits.  Your commutator is worn, but I've seen way worse run fine.
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04 Nov 2022 08:11 #876375 by Ricco86
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zed1015,
thanks for the input. I will surely look into that way of making it smooth again. Also on the parts for the zr 750. It’s so hard to keep up with vintage parts tracking but it’s rewarding when everyone is always complementing it and asking to buy it. Will start searching now! Thanks again

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04 Nov 2022 08:14 #876376 by Injected
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Don't put a starter in it from a kick start 650 (1977 to 1980) as they only have 2 brushes instead of 4.
Kw is the same but the later ones are somehow stronger as they only had that to start the motor.
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04 Nov 2022 08:18 #876378 by Ricco86
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Nessism
I appreciate that, for giving me hope to save this one for now, and for the site to find replacement parts 

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04 Nov 2022 08:19 #876379 by Ricco86
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Injected, 
I’ll avoid those when searching, and appreciate the heads up before opening another can of worms haha. 

Ricco

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04 Nov 2022 09:42 #876380 by Wookie58
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If you go the refurb route, once you have trued the commutator I have always found the best way to undercut the mica (needs to be below the surface of the copper so the brushes have full contact) is to break a hacksaw blade (don't forget to tape the broken end) and grind it thinner than stocky, you can then use this to carefully cut the mica back between the segments
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04 Nov 2022 14:25 #876390 by Ricco86
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So this is how it looks now, I cleaned even better after the pic and cleaned the segments way better, but didn’t knew the hacksaw blade trick, I reassembled it to avoid contamination fall into the crankcase. Once I get the parts to rebuild I will do that trick 

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04 Nov 2022 14:41 #876393 by riturbo
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If it still gives you problems my friend just had his rebuilt by these guys . Came back brand new and was only a little over 200 .  Heh ad it back in a week 

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04 Nov 2022 16:19 #876396 by Ricco86
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Riturbo 
awesome thanks so much. Hopefully it works but definitely saving the link for a just in case. Maybe get one from the local junkyard if they still have one and maybe send it regardless as a backup since seems this starters are notorious for crapping out lol. 

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06 Nov 2022 11:50 - 06 Nov 2022 11:51 #876477 by Injected
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Riturbo 
awesome thanks so much. Hopefully it works but definitely saving the link for a just in case. Maybe get one from the local junkyard if they still have one and maybe send it regardless as a backup since seems this starters are notorious for crapping out lol. 


 
"this starters are notorious for crapping out"

Where did you here that?
Kawasaki did not build items that broke easily, they were primarily a ship building company.
But like any company they did not intend there products to live for 30-40 years either.
I have a '82 starter in my bike and its never been apart.
 
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