'78 KZ1000 makeover

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15 Mar 2011 20:58 #438290 by porchev914
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OK guys, I picked up a Z1 crank and rotor off of ebay.

Whats the concensus on tranny bearing replacement? Is there a reliable way to check my bearings for wear, or should I just replace them since they have 80K+ miles on them? If everything is ok with my tranny and my crank shows up in decent condition, then it'll be time to do a final cleaning of my cases (gotta make sure there is no media blasting residue left anywhere) and assemble the bottom end. I spent some time today smoothing a few welds, and going over a few more with the tig torch. My argon tank is down to about 100 psi, so a refill is due. I'm pretty sure I have a small leak in my regulator, as I seem to loose argon if I don't shut off the tank valve :blink: I'm happy that I have a welder that works, and I'm glad the company works to correct any issues I have, but damn! I'm getting a little tired of getting things fixed/replaced. Onward.....I need to finish the rear motor mount gussets that I had to modify, and I want to make some reinforcing panels for the top and bottom shock mounts....you know, some lateral shear strength never hurt anyone :P After that, I'll disassemble the roller, strip the frame and paint it. One thing at a time though, finish the frame welding B)

FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end

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16 Mar 2011 06:55 #438356 by 531blackbanshee
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adam ever since i had to replace a broken output shaft bearing,i think i would replace at least the output shaft bearing and as many of the others as i could afford.the bearing on the back of the basket is a double roller and probably last forever in a street bike.the other two are not stressed as much so probably don't wear to bad.i guess you can go with dollars or luck which one do you feel best about :P .



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16 Mar 2011 08:33 #438364 by mark1122
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531blackbanshee wrote:

adam ever since i had to replace a broken output shaft bearing,i think i would replace at least the output shaft bearing and as many of the others as i could afford.the bearing on the back of the basket is a double roller and probably last forever in a street bike.the other two are not stressed as much so probably don't wear to bad.i guess you can go with dollars or luck which one do you feel best about :P .
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X2 id replace the output shaft bearing for sure. after 80,000 i would suspect them all.:(

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16 Mar 2011 08:47 #438369 by T_Dub
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I only replaced my secondary shaft bearings on the 650, but she had under 30,000km, nowhere near your kind of mileage.

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16 Mar 2011 21:50 #438476 by porchev914
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I'll replace the damn bearings guys. Hopefully the outboard bearing support will take some stress off the output shaft bearing. The bottom line is I can't risk jeopardizing my lower assembly for $140 in bearings when my bearings are already pushing retirement age.

FRANKEN Z!
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16 Mar 2011 21:59 #438477 by wireman
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531blackbanshee wrote:

the same thing that's wrong with wire wheels,duh :huh: !

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17 Mar 2011 10:06 #438586 by 531blackbanshee
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:laugh: wireman,right where ya live huh?
i know,call me weak,i couldn't help it,you just left it layin out there,someone had to pick it up and run it in :woohoo: .

we knew you would come around adam, :lol: .
you won't regret it and after you are riding it will seem cheap,you know after you forgot about the money you spent and all :P .

leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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07 Apr 2011 09:34 #443174 by Stu Pidasole
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update, update, update!!!!!

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08 Apr 2011 02:40 #443379 by porchev914
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Awww hell, I've got nothin' substantial. I have done a little cleanup on my frame welds, but I need to pick up some more primer and spay the areas I have completed to keep myself from going back to the same spot. But, if I must, I did get this crammed in my mailbox last week:



While I still need to donate $140 to my aging tranny, a battery is my next purchase to that I cam make the box and more importantly, the mounts in the subframe. That way I can finish up any welding and get it painted.

FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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08 Apr 2011 15:30 #443431 by testarossa
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Does the $140 get you all new transmission bearings? I'll probably replace mine when I tear into my engine to do the 1075.

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08 Apr 2011 20:55 #443475 by porchev914
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Yeah Josh, there are 2 main bearings, the big double roller at the clutch basket ($80 for the heavy duty unit) and the output shaft main bearing ($30) priced from A.P.E. The little needle bearings are $10 from places like

I suppose if I realy wanted to, I could spend another $80 on the bushings for the little needle bearings. Do those things ever wear out?

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08 Apr 2011 21:48 #443493 by testarossa
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That answered my next question. Looks like I'll be splitting my cases again when I do my upgrade. I want to get my clutch basket balanced. Might as well have another close look at those bearings while I'm in there.

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