KZ440 Resto

More
04 May 2008 17:02 #211142 by A3440
KZ440 Resto was created by A3440
Well I have a 1982 KZ440 LTD A3 and I am restoring it to be my daily mode of transportation. I suspect it will be a long road ahead of me but I am making some headway. I will post pics and details along the way when I can. What I need is some help. By help I mean parts, for sell or trade so I can get this thing running. I have been looking on Ebay and I have found some parts that I need but I also want to check here to see if any of you have parts I could use.

What I need first is a starter relay then a master cylinder and front brake lever. Next I need rear coilovers as both are toast. I don't need new just usable and safe parts.

1. Starter Relay/Solenoid...what other bikes use the same relay?
2. Rear Shocks...what can I supplement for the factory shocks?
3. The master cylinder...does it have to be a stock piece or can I use anyone that uses the same connections?

Those are the main things right now and should make the bike ridable. So if ANYONE can help me out and has parts please let me know. Thanks.

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
05 May 2008 09:18 #211308 by JohNLA
Replied by JohNLA on topic KZ440 Resto
I do not know that model very well.
But I can tell you if you look up the parts you need at Kawasaki's parts finder. Then click the part you need. Then click the yellow flag and it will list all the different bikes that share thae same part.

s49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/JohNLA_photo/1983%20GPZ%20550/
83 GPZ 550 Stock with 3600 miles_83s.
83 GPZ 550 4-1,pods,Mikuni 36,000 + miles

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
05 May 2008 10:17 #211325 by Qdude
Replied by Qdude on topic KZ440 Resto
JohNLA wrote:

if you look up the parts you need at Kawasaki's parts finder. Then click the part you need. Then click the yellow flag and it will list all the different bikes that share that same part.


No sh*t, That is kool as heck.

77 KZ 650 C1.
77 KZ 650 C1.
Crashed-Repaired, Pods, Kerker pipe, re-wired core bundle, lamp upgraded, homemade rectifier, solid state regulator , Dyna-s ignition, repainted, slightly modified, year-round commuter
Honda Metro 85 mpg Scooter. Dont laugh I will throw it at you

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
05 May 2008 19:39 - 05 May 2008 19:43 #211460 by EasyRider1
Replied by EasyRider1 on topic KZ440 Resto
I ride a '81 KZ440 A2! There is a guy on ebay who sells nice new master cylinders for around $50 but you could get a used one for a lot less probably.

There are a few KZ440 starter solenoid's on ebay right now for around $20-$30 shipped.

As for shocks, how worn out are yours? If you get used ones, get a set that was on a low mileage bike. I'm not sure what new shocks are compatible. I thought mine were to loose when I first got the bike but now I like them as long as I'm riding solo. The KZ440 isn't really a good bike for two anyway imo.

So, it sounds to me that you don't have a whole lot to keep you from getting her going. Make sure your tires aren't too old or cracked/worn.

I'd love to see some photos of your bike if you have any!

1978 KZ650C
Attachments:
Last edit: 05 May 2008 19:43 by EasyRider1.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
08 May 2008 22:34 #212216 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
EasyRider1 wrote:

I ride a '81 KZ440 A2! There is a guy on ebay who sells nice new master cylinders for around $50 but you could get a used one for a lot less probably.

There are a few KZ440 starter solenoid's on ebay right now for around $20-$30 shipped.

As for shocks, how worn out are yours? If you get used ones, get a set that was on a low mileage bike. I'm not sure what new shocks are compatible. I thought mine were to loose when I first got the bike but now I like them as long as I'm riding solo. The KZ440 isn't really a good bike for two anyway imo.

So, it sounds to me that you don't have a whole lot to keep you from getting her going. Make sure your tires aren't too old or cracked/worn.

I'd love to see some photos of your bike if you have any!


Thanks everyone...my rear shocks are pitted and rusty but they do work. I am not to big on taking chances with parts I think are iffy I guess you could say. I have some pics posted here:
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...w&id=210599&catid=10

I should have a relay here pretty soon thanks to a cool guy here on this forum, so thats all good. I have been playing with and cleaning my carbs...lots of goo inside of them and alot of clogged up stuff but I am making headway. More to come soon with pics.

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 May 2008 14:30 #212856 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
I got the bike to run today on its own using gas from the gas tank and not TB cleaner. I had to remove the carbs again and this time cleaned them like I was going to be eating off of them and I used some Elmers glue on the diaphragms to seal the very small tears on both of them. I put the carbs back on the bike and she fired right up!! She is running kinda rough where with the choke on it's at 4,000rpm and when I turn the choke off it's at about 1,300rpm and runs that way for a few minutes and then it shuts off. I did put a small amount of Seafoam in the tank and I think that is causing some popping. Also I haven't fully bolted down the alternator cover and I think that is causing a problem too.

I need a starter BAD, this one is foooked up and is kinda grinding a little bit and barely wants to turn most of the time. The battery is perfect though. the oil is slightly low in the engine but still above the low line but just barely.

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • KZQ
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Walking Behind the Corn May Not Be All That!
More
11 May 2008 15:09 #212860 by KZQ
Replied by KZQ on topic KZ440 Resto
Hi A3440,

You said you used "Elmers glue on the diaphragms to seal the very small tears on both of them". What sort of Elmer's glue are you using? I don't know of any Elmer's product that might help on a carb diaphragm.

KZCSI

www.KZ1300.com
Riders:
1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
Projects:
1985 ZN1300

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 May 2008 19:01 - 11 May 2008 19:06 #212923 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
KZCSI wrote:

Hi A3440,

You said you used "Elmers glue on the diaphragms to seal the very small tears on both of them". What sort of Elmer's glue are you using? I don't know of any Elmer's product that might help on a carb diaphragm.

KZCSI


I used just regular plain old white Elmer's Glue...specifically it is called Elmer's Glue-All Multi-Purpose Glue. The reason I gave it a try is because when it cures (turns from white to clear) it is pretty strong and kind of rubbery. I applied a small amount on the tear near the very outside edge where it seals in the groove. I let it dry completely before I put it all back together. I did not use alot but just enough to cover about 1mm around the cut in the diaphragm...seems to be holding well. I will let you know how long it last if I start having problems with the carbs. Just make sure the rubber is clean and dry before you put on the glue. :cheer:

Edit: I put it on the topside only, by that I mean the side of the diaphragm where the spring is.

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running
Last edit: 11 May 2008 19:06 by A3440.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 May 2008 18:40 #213664 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
I did some work on the 440 today, oil change and filter change. I put the factory airbox and filter back in and now she stays running. I am having a problem with the idle though and hopefully someone can help me solve it. My idle with the choke off is hanging pretty high until I manually push on a bolt between the carbs to bring it back down as you will see me do in the video. The bike is popping and spitting a little bit as you may also hear in the video. Also I posted two pics of my new alternator cover bolts. Let me know what you all think, I really want to ride her soon...real soon.

[img

[img

[img

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • The Gringo
  • Offline
  • User
  • ¡Usted no necesita otra motocicleta!
More
14 May 2008 19:51 - 14 May 2008 19:53 #213696 by The Gringo
Replied by The Gringo on topic KZ440 Resto
In order for your bike to run correctly it is imperative that you have the air filter installed correctly. It's about a fifty fifty chance that you did it right. To check this open the seat grab the very back of the filter and lift up. If it moves upwards you did it wrong. There is a lip at the bottom that has to slide into the airbox before you attach the 2 top screws. This will make a huge difference in how your bike runs.

Andy
Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special
Last edit: 14 May 2008 19:53 by The Gringo.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 May 2008 20:14 #213702 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
You are 100% correct...I remember it moving after I put the screws in and thinking that doesn't seem sealed...I will have to fix that in the morning....thank you very much.

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
15 May 2008 17:24 #213885 by A3440
Replied by A3440 on topic KZ440 Resto
The airbox was not seated properly but now it is. I took off the front tire today and had a tire shop put air in it and found many leaks around the bead, they fixed that up real good so now my front tire is fine again. The idle...well here is a pic of what I push on to settle the idle down. If I keep some pressure on the screw when I let off the throttle, the idle will come down very fast back to it's normal idle. If I do not hold pressure on the screw when I wrap the throttle the idle will hang up high until I push the screw down. I adjusted the slack properly for the throttle cable so that is not making it "stick" I guess would be the term. There has to be some way to fix this problem, please tell me I can fix this problem...and what is this screw for? lol

Click Image
[img

1982 KZ440 LTD - Now Running

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum