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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 05 Oct 2021 18:28 #856241

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You must be way more picky than I am Matt.  That M/C looks very nice to me.

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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 05 Oct 2021 18:40 #856243

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You must be way more picky than I am Matt.  That M/C looks very nice to me.

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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 06 Oct 2021 05:29 #856249

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I'd say it looks 99.9% better. hee. That m/c is kind of a poor design & has a tendency to leak at the cap, maybe consider using a sealant of some sort on the diaphragm.  I refurbished mine a few years back, cleaned the grooves thoroughly & installed a new diaphragm. used an awl to scrape off the hardened crud & hit the groove w brass wire wheels. but it still leaked within a year.   At the time I thought about using a sealant. probably should've done.  Here's a pic from an old clymer manual.


Baking a Fr Br m/c in the oven. www.kzrider.com/forum/6-paint-a-bodywork...c-in-the-oven#774813

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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 06 Oct 2021 07:44 #856258

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Martin_csr. Thanks for posting the link to your M/C restoration. I was thinking of baking the M/C but was worried about the site glass. I was thinking the glass and seal should handle a temp at least if not higher than the boiling point of the fluid. Just a guess. I’m going to bake it similar. I fit the diaphragm yesterday and it seamed shrunk up. I like the idea of getting a NOS. 
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 06 Oct 2021 08:02 #856259

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That diaphragm is NLA & probably pricy on EB.  Honestly, I would consider reusing the old one & install w a very light bead of sealant.  It's kind of the pits to go thru all the trouble, get it all nice n pretty, install a new diaphragm, then still have it ruin the paint.

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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 08 Oct 2021 18:02 #856396

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Thanks to martin_csr for the confidence to oven cure the M/C. First cure was about 145 of 30 minutes. Second was 200 for 45. All turned out great. Assembly tomorrow and then on to the front calipers. 

Thoughts on using DOT 5?

 
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 08 Oct 2021 19:40 #856403

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DOT5 is okay if everything is fresh and clean (new lines, rebuilt calipers) if I remember correctly. I like the idea of it not eating paint; however, I'm uncertain if I like that it doesn't absorb water. I just use cheapy DOT3 and it's fine. 
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 09 Oct 2021 10:09 #856423

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Wow reading up online about DOT5 is rough it’s either “I’ve used it for 25 years and love it” or “I had nothing but problems. It trashes the pressure switches, and the brakes fail diving up in the mountains. I flushed it out and went back to DOT4 and not a problem sense”. 

 
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 09 Oct 2021 15:24 #856455

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DOT 4 for sure.  5 has drawbacks and only minimal upside.  
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 09 Oct 2021 19:34 #856471

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I haven't used DOT5, but I read a bit about it when I was just rebuilding the brakes on my Z1R.  The thing that scared me off was that DOT5 and water do not mix at all, and this can allow any water that does manage to get in to accumulate at the lowest point in the system in a puddle.  That didn't really seem appealing to me.  Bleeding DOT3/4 out of the system is pretty fast, and it carries any accumulated water away with it.  That seems fine.
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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 09 Oct 2021 20:19 #856475

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DOHC, I read similar things. I was looking at the paint safe aspect. It seems as Nessism mentioned it has drawbacks and minimal upside. I’ll stick with the DOT5.

Assembly went smooth. Just need to get a replacement cover screw. Need to pull the calipers and get a look at them. 

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1980 Kz750E Front Master Cylinder 10 Oct 2021 17:16 #856515

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Here the finished product. Minus the cover screws.

 
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