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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 05:27 #373342

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Mine is bent a little to the right. do you think that this thing will straighten it back out? Is there a 3" die that comes with it? :laugh: :woohoo: :kiss:
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 05:30 #373343

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I think that if you filled the pipe with sand and plugged the ends you might be able to get a tighter bend yet. Just use those expanding rubber plugs from McMaster-Carr.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 05:34 #373344

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Yosh exhaust "S" bend no doubt....

Not so good on the header though unless of course going with the curved risers...;)

If didn't have to deal with the oil access, wouldn't be that hard but whoa... A whole hell of a lot of bends going on getting around it... :S

Still playing with the idea, remove the pipe to change the oil, not that big of a deal.... And the way I'm collaring the exhaust port connections, exhaust half collars not required...

Trying different PVC bends to see what I like best...;)
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 07:39 #373359

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otakar wrote:

I think that if you filled the pipe with sand and plugged the ends you might be able to get a tighter bend yet. Just use those expanding rubber plugs from McMaster-Carr.


I did in fact bring home a bag of sand from work yesterday to see what would happen when filled. I may even fill the 1.5" tube and cap it before I test bend one. I wonder though if clamped rubber plugs would be strong enough to contain any developing pressures.....?
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 07:46 #373360

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What I think I may need to do, ultimately, is a combination of using the roller to get the smooth uniform exits from the head and down the front cradle and heated hand bending to pull the end of the primary to the right (or left maybe?) You see, I cannot forgo the oil filter access because I also have to worry about my shock linkage (just like you would probably have to OMR) so I can't do it the straight and simple way :ohmy: Or I could pony up for an actual tubing bender for the tighter bends :woohoo:
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 08:10 #373368

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Noope, won;t be an issue for this pipe will be going on the stock KZ1000...

Same time, my kerker has plenty of room on the 900 that is modified with monshock... May be the way the lower mount is different due to differences in the designs themselves.

On the kerker, the 4-1 collector end is several inches in front of the mount versus where yours ends right at the mounts... One of the reasons I mentioned previously about the riser lengths seeming long.

Ah well, this is the type of things that make it fun... Fabbing that is... Sand filled bends, you bet only way to get around crinkled corners....

HFT has a 16 ton 1/2" to 3" bender that will most likely be the method I go with... Sand fill and cap, flame heat and bend...

No for the 1000 dollar question... 4-1 collector... flat or 2 on top of 2.... If I chose not to have all the bends and design where remove the exhaust, then go with flat for additional ground clearances...

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, what to do.... :S
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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 08:14 #373370

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Is there an oil filter relocation gizmo for these bikes? I shoehorned a 350 smallblock in an S-10 a few years ago and because of extreme underhood heat i converted the original filter location to the fender well with a two filter system that went to an oil cooler. Talk about easy oil changes.
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 08:21 #373373

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I go and get some mandrel bent pieces in the diameter and angles I think I can use for my project, then weld it all together. All the same size throughout, just like the manufactured stuff. You can even get U bends in a small radius.
I tried the HF tubing bender years ago trying to bend some 1 1/8" exhaust tube, returned to the store after attempt. Then went to the local muffler shop and they did the bends for $5. Still had some crimp to it so that is when I went to mandrel bends.
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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 08:23 #373374

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I love the thought of the Tri Y header, and I see they are used on the uber expensive ti systems. I'm just not sure if I'm ready for the complexity........yet. I keep forgetting you have a kz1k omr, so yeah, it wouldn't be an issue for the non existent linkage!

While I'm sure it's possible to make a filter relocation kit, where do you stash the external filter?
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Motor... where'd you get the mandrels?

I've pricedon the internet and some where better then others. Either case, not cheap so unless truy mass producing, possibly be cheaper to just by an exhaust... :blink: :laugh:

But hey, what fun would that be....
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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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Harbor Freight Tubing Roller 04 Jun 2010 08:31 #373381

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Well with the rotary stuff I do I have bought some stuff from RACING BEAT in LA. But it was expensive. I believe that you can even get some from JC Whitney, although most high quality muffler shops stock or can order some, also some sellers on EBAY of course. Do you have a good Speed shop in town that sells Headers and does installs? Try them for starters as it can be cheapest to get local/ minus freight.
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Motor Head wrote:

I tried the HF tubing bender years ago trying to bend some 1 1/8" exhaust tube, returned to the store after attempt. Then went to the local muffler shop and they did the bends for $5. Still had some crimp to it so that is when I went to mandrel bends.


There is a big difference between the HF PIPE bender, and this tubing ROLLER. Completely different animals, and this roller is actually made for tubing.

You could certainly buy a buch of mandrel bends and cobble together an exhaust. I was shooting for a single tube for the primaries, but if I have too much trouble with the bends at the bottom of the front cradle then I'll look at that option. But in all honesty, if I can't make the primary tubes 1 piece, then I should just go buy a header that will work. I'm sure otakar will give me the same advice- just go buy a header! But where's the fun in that?
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