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Better than WD-40 11 Feb 2010 20:35 #347828

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Got this in an e-mail awhile back...

Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

1982 kz750 ltd
Drag bars, 4into1 V&H with no baffle.

1991 zephyr 550
about to give up on her.

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Better than WD-40 11 Feb 2010 21:16 #347838

TeK9iNe Offline User What did you do!?! Posts: 2440 Thank you received: 28	Nice info man... very useful. Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator 79 Kawie Z1000 LTD 81 Kawie Z1000 CSR 83 Honda VT750C A 85 Kawie GPZ900 A2 86 Zukie GS1150 EG 93 Yamie XV1100 E Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 05:12 #347859

Kawickrice Offline User After Monday & Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF Posts: 2496 Thank you received: 18	ATF and acetone huh, guess i'll be brewing some for my oil can 73 Kawasaki Z1 07 HD CVO Ultra Classic 82 Suzuki GS 1100 74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy) 77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike) 80 Indian Moped (My American Iron) 1 Long Gone 75 Suzuki GT550 74 GT 380 79 RD 400 Daytona Special 72 Honda CL 175 74 Honda QA 50 Tampa FL
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 06:48 #347871

JMKZHI Offline Platinum Member Posts: 2429 Thank you received: 48	I've had good luck w LiquidWrench products: CycleChainLube, SiliconeSpray, DryLubricant & of course their PenetratingLubricant since that's the topic.
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 07:51 #347883

Mcdroid Offline User Gone Kwackers Posts: 6567 Thank you received: 300	Good info..I'm still using with my spray can (purchased 10 years ago) of Marvel Mystery Oil. Michael Alvin, Texas 1982 GPz750 1977 KZ1000A 1978 KZ1000A 1982 GPz1100 1975 Z2A
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 09:48 #347900

650ed Offline User Posts: 15344 Thank you received: 2828	I'm a big Kroil fan. It works great at loosening anything that's stuck and a $7 can will last a lifetime. Ed 1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 11:05 #347908

timebomb33 Offline User Posts: 4288 Thank you received: 10	does the acetone flash off or will it stay mixed with the atf. what i'm saying is if imake a batch up will i have to keep adding acetone to keep the mixture right. 1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 13:13 #347922

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timebomb33 wrote:

does the acetone flash off or will it stay mixed with the atf. what i'm saying is if imake a batch up will i have to keep adding acetone to keep the mixture right.

Yeah, good Q. Cause acetone goes reeeeeaaaal fast!

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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 14:51 #347931

PLUMMEN Offline User Posts: 8139 Thank you received: 103	how about zep45? i love the smell of that stuff! Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 15:50 #347942

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I have been using Marvel's Mystery Oil and Laquer thinner 50/50 for over 30 years. It works great, especially for cleaning parts.

I also have a distributor that carries "wellWorth" products.
A spin off of "Castle" brand products. started in Western New York.
www.wellworthproducts.com
complete line of everything in a can.
Collision supplies and waxes etc.
They have a nice aerosal "A 2 Z" nice light oil spray, i use it on everything.
Their penetrant is called "Thust"
Check them out

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 16:06 #347943

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PLUMMEN wrote:

how about zep45? i love the smell of that stuff!

ZEP45 IS AMAZING!!!!! we have it in the shop of the telephone company i work at in the summers. The stuff never ceases to amaze me. It works excellent

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1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold

1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay

1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay

1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
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Better than WD-40 12 Feb 2010 16:19 #347944

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rnuse wrote:

Got this in an e-mail awhile back...

Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

That's some interesting info. Thanks for that!

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